Posted on 11/18/2002 7:26:58 AM PST by Jack Black
Where did the site say that the free state would sponsor government-enforced multiculturalism? Apparently, your home education didn't include reading comprehension skills...
I know there are some immediately obvious problems with SC, but I think there could be a great advantage to picking a Southern state. For one, there is still much Southern patriotism in the South, and much of that resides in SC. Many freedom-loving Southerners who would otherwise join us may be disinclined to move out of the South. It almost feels traitorous to some of us to leave. So, psychologically, many more Southerners may be ready to join the effort if a Southern state is picked.
I also think the existence of a coastline is much preferable to a border with Canada. I see a border with Canada to be a big minus. They are likely to boycott and be hostile to any free state, as fear would be great in Ottawa of encouraging fed-up provinces like Alberta. That is one freedom-hating regime there, with a freedom-hating Eastern population to bolster it.
Another advantage of South Carolina might be its large population of Blacks. Huh, you say? I know, most of that population is the most addicted to Federal socialism, and any freedom movement will be branded by the Left as "racist" (they don't need the slightest bit of evidence to start throwing that term around), but a success in taking over the state and local governments in SC might eventually serve to crush the race pimping that goes on in this country, and end up helping Blacks more than any of us. When other Blacks see the quality of life that the Blacks of SC have under freedom, it will wake many of them up, and cause a national revolution in race relations, and a dramatic weakening of power of those who use race as an issue to stay in power.
I have an admitted personal preference for the South. I love the South, and feel I am already living too far north now in MO, and would find it difficult to commit to leaving. I was born in the West, and love it out there, too, but when the author says that Idaho has "moderate" winters, that translates to "unbearably severe" to this cold-blooded gator. I can't believe how cold I have found Missouri!
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You're showing a definite tendency to confuse Star Wars with the real world...
If you knew the Feds were not going to bail you out after a particular disaster you might be inclined to build hardier or elevated structures or not live in the affected area based upon your own cost\risk analysis...
Those laws are all of fairly recent origin, and this country got by fine before they were ever passed. We'll simply do so again, thank you.
Ah, the false argument of every statist since the begginning of time. Ever hear of laissez-faire capitalism, bub?
When I was starting graduate school, at 23, there was a veteran PhD student there who was pretty sharp. Without realizing it, I started relying on him more and more, asking him where I could find this, what I should do here, etc. One day I popped into his office, and asked him where I could find something I needed, and how to use it. He stared at me for about 3 seconds, then said "***, can't you do ANYTHING for yourself?" I was ticked off! The guy WAS truly famous for being arrogant, and he held bad grudges, and had many weaknesses. I immediately focused on his weaknesses in my mind, and angrily set out to find the equipment myself. As I was working, I realized he was right, and was embarrassed, but also very, very thankful for his straight-forward criticism. Seeing my problem, and stopping my over-dependence got me through graduate school, and has helped me beyond.
You're right. I know you weren't talking about an enemy here, but... a wise man can take criticism, even from his worst enemy. After all, an enemy may give the MOST valuable criticism, because he's not prejudiced to like you.
Both of those morals you brought up are very applicable to the topic of this thread.
Go read the FAQs on the Free State site, where that charge is easily refuted.
You equate a free state with Utopia? No wonder this country is f*cked...
So, you are admitting that if you were a member of the "free state" legislature, you would work to overturn all seatbelt, speeding and drunk driving laws? I just want to be sure.
Do you mind detailing how you'll handle the resulting spike in traffic fatalities, and how you expect the state to handle the medical costs and rising insurance costs that would inevitably result from overturning seatbelt, speeding and drunk driving laws? Just saying you did without them before and you can do without them again doesn't answer the specifics.
BTW, how I feel about the laws themselves is irrelevant to the question. I'm just interested in knowing what you would do if you were in charge. I think the voters of any potential "free state" whose legislature you might be planning to "infiltrate" have a right to know what your specific plans are. You can treat my question as if you were already running for office and a potential voter was asking you a question.
I certainly am.
Do you mind detailing how you'll handle the resulting spike in traffic fatalities, and how you expect the state to handle the medical costs and rising insurance costs that would inevitably result from overturning seatbelt, speeding and drunk driving laws? Just saying you did without them before and you can do without them again doesn't answer the specifics.
Those cases would be handled in the same way that they were handled before those kinds of laws were passed. Speed laws aren't stopping anyone from speeding right now anyway, and most drivers naturally drive at the speed which is safest for the road they'r driving on. Anyone who drives drunk and kills another person or wrecks a vehicle ewetc. will still be prosecuted and held accountable just as he would be today, so your point is really a false one.
We do. But pro-dopers want to live a free-loader society where they can pretend their dope obsession and indulgence harms no one else and leave the clean-up costs to the taxpayers at large.
As least socialists are honest enough to admit there are costs and that they will extort more tax money from other citizens to clean up after "victim" dopers.
Show me where any of us have ever referred to a free society as a utopia. In fact, most conceptions of "utopia" (such as Moore's and Plato's) have been patently statist in nature, and certainly not libertarian.
Surely you don't believe that we enjoy as much freedom in this country now as we did two hundred years ago. If that were the case, this site certainly wouldn't exist. What exactly is the purpose oif this site, pray tell?
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