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To: Reagan Man; hscott; Sparta; fporretto; OWK; Sir Gawain; Centurion2000; Bella_Bru; Action-America; ..
...as a law and order conservative, I'm against "absolute and unrestricted" action in our civilized and law abiding society. America has a free and open society, but that doesn't translate into an anything goes approach, which is exactly what libertarianism is all about.

There is less "order" and less freedom in America than at any other time in our history. We now have a president putting in place measures designed to remove more of our freedoms and trample on the Bill of Rights.

What do you think about the government owning the largest share of land in the country and grabbing as much more as it can? What do you think your president will do about this (Land Grab Act Comes Back) for example?

And what do you think your president will do about gun rights? I'll tell you. When he's done, there will be no gun rights. Just watch what he does about this (BATF Moves to Block Importation of 'Obsolete' US Military Guns) for example.

I am not a libertarian, but at least they are for liberty, and that is the thing this country was founded for. For the few of us who still believe it is, "give me liberty or give me death," the demise of this country is apparently at hand. Most people do not care for freedom, most people are terrified of liberty, of actually being responsible for their own lives. They want "security," a "big brother," a "safety net," and they don't care how many people have to subjugated or repressed to get it.

Hank

27 posted on 11/17/2002 4:08:17 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief; All
I lean Libertarian, actually. (I was joking about the stoned remark) The Libertarian Party has no chance in hell as long as it emphasizes drugs and prostitution. As for making sure we have a free country, we to elect more conservative politicians than the RINOs we largely elect. Imagine the consequences if Gore was elected President. He would've never cut taxes, our second amendment would be in serious jeopardy, and there would be less private property rights. If Harry Browne was elected President, we would all pray facing Mecca and every church would be a mosque.
29 posted on 11/17/2002 4:16:37 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Hank Kerchief
>>>There is less "order" and less freedom in America than at any other time in our history.

I totally disagree with you.

I do not support land grabs by the federal government and neither does President Bush. I strongly support the 2nd Amendment right for Americans to keep and bear arms, and so does President Bush.

>>>I am not a libertarian, but at least they are for liberty, and that is the thing this country was founded for.

Its true. Many libertarians favor returning America to the days of 1790, when the vast majority of folks were uneducated, poor and didn't live past 40 years old. I don't support that type of life. While life may not be perfect in the 21st century, its far better then at any time in American history. Things may not be perfect in todays world, but when has life ever been perfect?

32 posted on 11/17/2002 4:27:52 PM PST by Reagan Man
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