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In solutions of calcium fluoride, the MAXIMUM concentration of fluoride ions is 16 ppm, whereas in solutions of sodium fluoride, the MAXIMUM concentration of fluoride ions is 42,200 ppm, roughly 1000 times more than the level that would cause immediate death in a average adult.

And just where are these concentrations measured? Obviously not in the water supply, and obviously not in blood plasma levels. Where?

Well Tom, I don't sit by the computer all day just waiting for you to converse with. I DO have other things to do..

But you WERE there to make that smartassed statement, then you disappeared. You saw my question(s), responded, then were strangely silent for 2 1/2 hours.

You mean you couldn't answer me then?

And just where are these concentrations measured? Obviously not in the water supply, and obviously not in blood plasma levels. Where?

If you go back to post 374, you'll see that ground water has been seen containing as much as 100 ppm of fluoride. So obviously, that isn't calcium fluoride, as its maximum solubility is 16 ppm.

As far as blood plasma levels, hmmm, I might want to look into that.

Well, first off, what do you think happens when there is a dental accident where a child swallows the fluoride treatment? Why do you think he or she gets ill and/or dies? Is it because there was only a 16 ppm level of fluoride in the bloodstream? Or do you think it may be just a bit higher?

When there are accidental discharges of fluoride in a resevoir, or when ground water leeches into the water system, I wonder what sort of concentration of fluoride we'd see there.

Say somebody decides to have a can of tuna with a salad for lunch. With lunch, the person drinks a nice big glass of fluoridated water, or perhaps a can of coke. After lunch, perhaps a cup of coffee made with fluoridated water, or perhaps tea which ITSELF contains fluoride. Afterwards, that person brushes their teeth with a fluoride toothpaste, swallows some of it then gargles with a fluoride mouthwash. I wonder how high of a concentration they'd have in their stomach. And I wonder what the short term level of fluoride would be in their blood stream before being ABSORBED or excreted.

In other words, there's lot's of ways to get MORE than the 1 ppm figure you continously quote.

AND, it may just be that those already elevated levels of fluoride are being accumulated in cells, themselves containing water. We'll get to that later though...