Posted on 11/16/2002 4:15:12 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo
Exactly what it is that Islamists want? They´re murdering innocent people around the world, disrupting commerce with their attacks on ships and businesses, attacking churches and temples, and broadcasting threats to the world almost daily. It´s understandable that we would ask: What is it they really want?
The short answer: They want to conquer the world. They want to establish a one-world Islamic government and govern the world under Shariah, Islamic law. They want to take away our freedoms, abolish churches and synagogues (as Saudi Arabia already has), and lock women in their homes and dress them in Afghan burkas. The Islamists I worked with in the Middle East for six years also boasted that they would take wives as young as nine years old and slaves to serve them from among the infidel population they govern. When I expressed doubt, they even told me which holy books authorized those actions.
On CBN News, Moshe Sharon, who has studied Islam for 35 years, said he believes Americans “ought to know that Islam divides the world into two parts: one part that is already under the rule of Islam, the other part which must come under the rule of Islam in the future. And this can happen either if the rest of the world, which is non-Islamic, succumbs to Islam or is conquered by Islam.´”
David Parsons, the editor of the Middle East Digest, said, “Osama bin Laden, this master terrorist, he has set forth a plan to his followers, a plan to conquer the world for Islam within a hundred years. And the main obstacle to him and others who share his beliefs, very prevalent within the Islamic world of world conquest, the main obstacle is the United States. Americans need to understand that.”
The truly Islamic nation is called Khilafah (Caliphate) headed by a Khaleefah (Caliph). Al-islami website explains: “When we say that Muslims must establish Khilafah, we mean that Muslims must establish an Islamic state, with an Islamic system of government ruled by the Islamic Shariah.” Khilafah.org says: “Khilafah is the political system of Islam. Under the Khilafah, the entire breadth of the Islamic system (be it social, economic, educational, foreign policy, etc.) is implemented. The Khilafah is also responsible for spreading the message of Islam to the world.”
Khilafah.com says, “The Khilafah is the global leadership for all the Muslims in the world. Its role is to establish the laws of the Islamic Shari‘ah and to carry the da‘wah [missionary invitation] of Islam to the world.” It warns that establishing a Khaleefah is a holy obligation upon all Muslims in the world.
They first want to unite all Islamic nations under a Khaleefah with absolute power over his subjects then go after the rest of the world. A powerful Islamic nation can challenge the non-Islamic world.
The Khaleefah is appointed by a council and will rule for life if he adheres to Islamic principles and law. One can also seize power by brute force. Islamic-world explains: “Many Muslim scholars say that if a person has already seized power, then to avoid Muslim bloodshed that person should be accepted if he upholds his duties as the Khalifa of the Muslim ummah [people].” They worry about Muslim bloodshed; the 9/11 attacks on America and the recent attack in Bali show that Christian bloodshed apparently means nothing, perhaps because we are kaffirs, infidels, nonbelievers. The Bali murderers chose Bali because only nonbelievers would be killed.
Pat Robertson, on his 700 Club TV broadcast, said: “[Islam] is not a peaceful religion that wants to coexist. They want to coexist until they can control, dominate and then if need be destroy. I have taken issue with our esteemed president in regard to his stand in saying Islam is a peaceful religion. It's just not. And the Koran makes it very clear, if you see an infidel, you are to kill him.” Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein may be monsters, but to the Ummah, the Muslims of the world, they are also fellow citizens of the Ummah. That might explain why Muslim leaders halfheartedly condemn Islamic terrorists.
Samuel P. Huntington, in his book, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order, notes: “Wherever one looks along the perimeter of Islam, Muslims have problems living peaceably with their neighbors. . . . in the 1990s they have been far more involved in intergroup violence than the people of any other civilizations.”
Khilafah.com says that after the Khilafah is established, “Then the Muslims should work with the Khilafah to combine the rest of the Islamic countries with it, hence the countries will become Dar al-Islam [under Islamic law] and they will then carry Islam to the world through invitation and jihad.”
They´ll “invite” us to become Islamic, then use jihad to impose it. They don´t have to explain jihad to us, of course. We saw it in America on September 11, 2001 and in Bali. And Osama bin Laden, his henchmen, and Islamists around the world (and don´t be fooled; there are tens of millions of them) have told us over and over what we can expect from their jihad.
As an American, I´m sick and tired of being bullied and intimidated. I want us to show Islamists once and for all the American version of jihad. We have no choice. Our nation, our freedoms, our very lives and those of our children and grandchildren depend on a swift and overwhelming response to the Islamist threat. Otherwise, believe me, if there is ever a hell on Earth, it will be a world under those savages.
There ya' go! That's my point. We've got enemies; hit 'em. We have people of varied religious persecutions, leave 'em be.
Fine, but the Koran will still be there and that means that in time more Muslims will discover that they have a duty to fight the Jihad- to convert the world or kill them. The problem is the religion, not the people. Osama did not hijack Islam. Islam hijacked Osama.
But not so with fundamentalists...
We are their opponent. Everyone who is not one of them is their opponent.
LOOK folks, the Great Jihad is upon us. In the eyes of the Muslim, this is but one of countless chapters in the Great Jihad that can span thousands of years. If they suffer great loss in the next 20 years, they will simply look at it as one battle lost, but the war is never over until they win. They see it as a religious duty and if it doesn't turn out the way they want it to, they figure Allah is not pleased with them THIS TIME. They become patient and wait unti the next time. It is never over because it is an ongoing duty.
Is this the same Daniel Pipes that sees Islam as a peaceful religion with some in it that make it evil? Is that the expert you refer to?
Try the link to his article. His bio is under his name there.
America's Fifth Column ... watch Steve Emerson/PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
New Link: Download 8 Mb zip file here (60 minute video)
Sorry for the short quote from the end of your text [Egads, but that was
absolutely fantastic writing!], but let me simply address the "bottom line":
When one's conviction to one's religion becomes as profound as it is
for those that are so willing to die for their convictions, you will see the
difference in character more plainly.
Islam may well promote a less tolerant follower, but the bible has passages
that if followed to it's letter, can be as destructive and violent as Islam.
Thanks again for your input. It's well worth saving.
How does non-religious ideology compare? Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol-Pot, and abortionists?
"Same ol'; same ol'"
Extremists are extremists.
[but where the hell does "abortionists" fit in? good grief. Let's not start
another off-topic ruckus here, ehh?]
Oh *&^%%^$ here come the starwar people... I have to go. I'll catch up later.
Technically, that's the StarTrek people... a much more fearsome group!(grin)
Perhaps I missed something overnight, but when exactly did we get into a war with a nation of people without their soil? We are in a war with a multi-national group of terrorists who hide in caves and holes in the ground like the vermin they are. They attack in the name of a religion and an ethnicity, but not in the name of a nation with soil. They do this by choice.
When we take them out, it is done by forces proudly wearing the uniform of this nation of people with soil using weapons bearing the name of this nation of people with soil.
Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
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Your question and post has nothing to do with the topic, however as
point of interest:
Dr. John Britton and his escort, James Barrett
[related matters: http://www.now.org/nnt/winter-99/aborvio.html]
How many more would you like?
But it has nothing to do with this topic and even less with any particular
organized religion.
The Pro-Life group does not promote violence. It is exactly what it claims to be: Pro Life
Thanks.
How many more would you like?
A much much longer list than that if you expect to be taken seriously. I've no doubt that someone here could come up with the name of a Nazi or two who were killed by Jews, but no sane person would argue a moral equivalence in that situation.
As for your:
But it has nothing to do with this topic and even less with any particular organized religion.
Are you not attempting to establish such a connection in your prior post?
However, there are killers of "abortion doctors" and "gay bashings", all in the name of "Christianity".
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