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Mr. Kerry and other critics also question whether the Pentagon botched the best attempt to nab Mr. bin Laden in the battle of Tora Bora last year in Afghanistan, and whether the administration is doing enough to stabilize that country.

Hmm? Really? it seems to me that the BEST opportunity to nab bin Laden was under the Clinton administration - when his head was offered on a platter, and Clinton declined. No bias or propaganda here - not by the media nor by John Kerry. < /sarcasm >

1 posted on 11/16/2002 3:36:14 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Ditto.

And I still have a gut feeling that this phoned-in tape is just a clever fake.

Someone mentioned the legend of El Cid, how as he was dying he instructed his aides de camp to tie him on his horse with his sword, and the horse carried the corpse of El Cid into his last battle against the Moors in Spain, which was won, although the Moors were not completely defeated in Spain for another couple centuries.

2 posted on 11/16/2002 3:43:16 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Alamo-Girl; onyx; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; Fred Mertz; dixiechick2000; SusanUSA; RonDog; ...
Bin Laden specter gives Bush critics an opening
Democrats see flaw in president's strategy

Excerpt:

"Bin Laden's re-emergence does not invalidate the progress that has been made in the war on terror," said Mr. Benjamin, a National Security Council official under President Bill Clinton. "But at the same time, bin Laden is a charismatic figure and his followers in radical Islam is certain to be mightily cheered by this."


I can almost envision this, with Clinton leading the cheers....



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3 posted on 11/16/2002 3:43:28 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Heinz/Kerry is a real a-hole.

Gung-ho in Viet Nam, when he came home to start his political career, his liberal family convinced him to be anti-war.

He flung somebody elses medals into the Tidal Pool in a DC demonstration.

He is the wealthiest senator in Washington and his hero was JFK.

He is not very bright and is more “greenie” than Gore.

5 posted on 11/16/2002 4:08:13 AM PST by johnny7
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To: MeeknMing
The RATS wouldn't recognize strategry if it kicked them squarely in the ass...like what happened to them on 5 November 2002!
8 posted on 11/16/2002 4:13:58 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: MeeknMing
I believe there is some merit in this article's argument. It may be entirely possible the rats are flopping on the terrorism issue now to position themselves as the ultimate defenders of the nation (in spite of their record).

They appear to be playing the odds that an attack is imminent, and by being on record that "we could do better" in the event of such an attack, they hope to clean up.

10 posted on 11/16/2002 4:21:22 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: MeeknMing
"While criticizing some of Mr. Bush's proposals for a new Department of Homeland Security, Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W. Va., said: "Osama bin Laden is still alive and plotting more attacks while we play bureaucratic shuffleboard."

It's evident that this "old fool" Byrd has forgotten that it took the U.S.A. and it's Allies well over 5 years of actual fighting to see the end of Adloph Hitler.

11 posted on 11/16/2002 4:27:06 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: MeeknMing
What ever 'Zip' Clinton did not do doesn't count.
12 posted on 11/16/2002 4:29:27 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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"Now, the president laid down that criteria a year ago when he said we will be judged by whether or not we find bin Laden dead or alive. Well, by that criteria, we haven't made a lot of progress," said Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D."

OK, I need some help. When did Bush say this? I remember him saying things to the effect that he would like Bin Laden dead or alive, but that the war on terror is more than one man. Seriously, I don't remember Bush saying what Dashole says he said. If he did say it, could someone please let me know.

13 posted on 11/16/2002 4:38:03 AM PST by Freemyland
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To: MeeknMing
It's a wonder we ever won WWII. Or maybe this attitude wasn't as prevalent back then.
14 posted on 11/16/2002 4:39:01 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: MeeknMing
This is WISHFUL thinking by democrats and the liberal press...Four years, millions lost, and we never found Hitler's body....IF, and I say IF, bin Laden is alive, we will get him....but this attempt by the liberals to hurt Bush will not work, in fact, it will add to the strength of the disdain for the democrats that resulted in the eviction notice they got on Nov 5.
18 posted on 11/16/2002 5:31:35 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: MeeknMing
The less than truthful democrats in power fighting the war on terror would have produced "remains" (perhaps even "DNA" and claimed OBL's demise.

We're all more secure with President Bush as commander and chief.

20 posted on 11/16/2002 6:25:05 AM PST by janee
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To: MeeknMing
I SAY Outlaw the democrat party...Just keep repeating DEMOCRATS===NAZIS=COMMUNIST
Say it enough and people will listen... That is what the Liberal media and Demonazis have been doing for 30 years....
I hope Kerry runs in 2004 i will be at every rally calling him a little commie BIATCH!!
21 posted on 11/16/2002 6:52:28 AM PST by daapfe
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To: MeeknMing

The Democrats don't get it. This is not what people voted for. They are damned lucky there is not another election next week... they would be thrown out en masse for doing this. This is exactly what the Democrats were being told not to do.

This carping from the sidelines while we're all trying to figure out how to keep from being blown up is not just annoying, it is angry-making. I think the Democrats are trading a little bit of hype for their base in return for lasting enmity from the American people. If they keep this up, I think we'll start to see people changing their voting registrations. No one will want to be known as a "Democrat." It will become a term of insult.


23 posted on 11/16/2002 8:23:52 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: MeeknMing
"analysts noted ... analysts said" Who the hell is that?

We are told the American people will be sure the war is over if Bin Laden is killed? And what will they think following the next Al Queda terrorist attack thereafter? Democrats are scum. They didn't notice the conquest of Afghanistan?

IF they have some suggestions on how better to fight this war, have they offered them to the Commander in Chief? Funny, I haven't heard one.

26 posted on 11/16/2002 9:14:09 AM PST by Williams
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To: MeeknMing
A couple of days ago, our local rag (The Buffalo News) published a chart showing 33 of the top al-Qaida leaders and lietenants. Of these, 14 have been either killed or captured. Just today, we get the report of the capture of another high al-Qaida figure. To the contrary, Mr. Daschle and Mr.Kerry, we are kicking butt.
29 posted on 11/16/2002 9:58:09 AM PST by fhayek
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To: MeeknMing
And what exactly have any of the Democrats done in the war against terror??
40 posted on 11/16/2002 5:52:18 PM PST by joonbug
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