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Missing Adult, HELP NEEDED (crime in progress?) [SC]
Missing Adult family member -- thread on TimeBomb2000 Forum ^ | 11/15/02 | Prairie Lady

Posted on 11/15/2002 12:02:43 PM PST by Cascadians

This is an urgent plea for help from Prairie Lady; these are her posts: [copied]

I JUST got off the phone with my neice. It seems my sister (her mother) is missing since yesterday between 3pm and 4:40pm yesterday from the SouthCarolina area.

She headed north as far as we can track, but then nothing. This is TOTALLY uncharacteristic of her.

We need to know if she is on her own willingly making decisions, or if she has been abducted and is in need of help. Is there anybody from that area that can help?
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ok, she spoke to hubbie from home via phone about 3 pm yesterday afternoon. She left home at that time saying she was headed for her local walmart near Aynor South Carolina..I don't know the exact town...maybe conroe or something? She never made it to walmart. Survaliance tapes show she never went in there. She withdrew some money from the bank locally. She put gas in her car at the north carolina / south carolina state line (cherry creek). She withdrew a BUNCH of money in Raliegh Durham North Carolina. She spoke to her daughter at 4:30 saying she was going christmas shopping and that she would be late. But she never made it home.

If she had any inclinations to leave home, she never indicated it, and she would NOT be heading NORTH!!

She is 5'7 inches tall, LONG legs, 150 lbs, has very short medium brown hair. lots of freckels, hazel eyes. Driving a Dark Blue BMW 4 door with a mini antennea on the driver's side on the post between the door and the windshield, licence plate # 845HLG
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Go ahead and post it at freeps..thanks
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My brother in law is former military police. He made a call to the police and is tracking bank usage which is showing itself to be very abnormal such as numerous attempts to use the various cards but rejects due to wrong pin numbers. He's requested survalance tapes from the banks as well. She was supposed to go to walmart, but walmart survaliance tapes show she never made it there. So, hes compiling stuff to show that something IS very wrong.

Also, she talked to her daughter AFTER one of the cash drafts and said someting weird to her daughter...like I love you...and she NEVER says that to THAT daughter.

Anyway, I didn't want to put all this on the boards...

This is too weird.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; US: Kentucky; US: South Carolina; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: adultfamilymember; crime; kidnapping; missing; pins; southcarolina
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To: TankGurrrl
Prayers and blessings from Columbus, Ohio
1,521 posted on 11/22/2002 12:52:59 PM PST by Sunshine55
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To: SunnyUsa
I registered here on FR eons ago as Leila.....known as Mrs. Peavey on TB2000.

When I first noted the disappearance of Samantha Burns, the college student from Huntington, W.V., I wondered if there was a connection to Alice. Then, Tuesday night I read about the brief abduction of 8-year-old Ashley Wolford from Barboursville, which is actually a suburb of Huntington.

Today, we've learned through additional articles that Fulks has a long-time friend from childhood who lives in Huntington, and he and Basham spent two days with her. Fulks was in Huntington on Tuesday. Tuesday night the 8-year-old child was briefly abducted.

This is just speculation, but my scenario: For whatever reason, 8-year-old Ashley Wolford was left alone in a car. Fulks left his friend's home and was scouting for a car to steal to replace Alice's BMW. He saw the Wolford car and took it. Perhaps he didn't know there was a child in the car until after he was a few miles from where he stole the car. As he drove, he turned the radio on and heard the Amber Alert, and probably a descrition of the vehicle he was driving. He feared being caught with a kidnapped child and sought a place to abandon the vehicle. He left it in a shopping plaza across from a hospital in Huntington .......where he knew there would be people who would spot the car. He left the car running which would also alert attention to the vehicle. I think Fulks was trying to replace Alice's BMW, because at that time he knew police were looking for it. When he left the Wolford vehicle, he returned to where he left Alice's BMW.

My questions. 1. Have police taken finger prints from this stolen vehicle and compared with Fulk's? 2. Have the police shown 8-year-old Ashley a picture of Fulks for identification?
1,522 posted on 11/22/2002 1:27:42 PM PST by leila
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To: leila
who knows.....this is apparently a non-story since all it is rating is a blurb on the bottom of the tv for the most part....

but I can't believe that two women are missing,and a little girl taken , and this is NOT a national story....don't get it....

yet we have live coverage of winnoa Rider'sentencing in LA for shoplifting....go figure....

reguardless....we will keep praying....

1,523 posted on 11/22/2002 1:34:31 PM PST by cherry
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To: leila
ioho you have already conclusively linked the 8-yr-old to Alice's perps.

Her abduction should be added to that grahic.

Good job, Mrs. Peavey
1,524 posted on 11/22/2002 1:56:49 PM PST by Cascadians
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To: error99
This just burns my butt. The crap they keep running on the news about stuff that just doesn't matter but they basically ignore stories like this one. If it was Michael Jackson's baby that was missing, or a Fredrick's of Hollywood model that was missing, then I guess the media would be covering this more.
1,525 posted on 11/22/2002 3:51:50 PM PST by error99
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To: Cascadians; All
Feeling very bummed but still can't look away. The latest:

NEW INFO COMING OUT ABOUT SUSPECTS IN DONOVAN KIDNAPPING

An affidavit by FBI agent Janet Bray said Basham admitted he and Fulks kidnapped Donovan and bound her with duct tape in the back seat of her BMW. Basham and Fulks continue to be invterviewed by the FBI.
The bureau says the two men are giving agents conflicting information about the last time they saw Alice Donovan.
We do know that Fulks gave agents information Thursday that prompted them to focus once again on search efforts in Conway.
Team 15 has also learned new information about Fulks' girlfriend Tina Severance.
She and her roommate are still in Myrtle Beach being questioned by authorities.
We have learned that Severance went to the Kentucky jail and visited Fulks the day before he escaped.
She still maintains she did not know fulks had escaped when he showed up at her house with Basham.
The FBI says if Severance and her roommate had any knowledge of crimes committed by the men, both women could face federal charges.
An official at the Hopkins County Jail, who was aware of the correspondance between Fulks and his girlfriend, says he gave police Severance's home address in Indiana and told police to go there.
It turns out Fulks did in fact go to his girlfriends home.
But we are told police never did.
The U.S. Attorneys in Indiana and Kentucky have agreed to let South Carolina try Fulks, and possibly Basham, first.
Basham will have an initial court appearance shortly and then he will be transferred to South Carolina.
Team 15 has also learned that both Fulks and Basham have been named as official suspects in the disappearance of a West Virginia woman.
19-year-old Samantha Burns disappeared from the Huntington, West Virginia area a week ago Monday.

From WPDE, Myrtle Beach.

1,526 posted on 11/22/2002 3:59:59 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: cherry
Cherry, get over it. It is a national story. How do you know about it? How do I know, living half a country away? This morning before my second cup of coffee I saw several news accounts of this tragedy???
1,527 posted on 11/22/2002 4:04:35 PM PST by billhilly
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Bump for Alice
1,528 posted on 11/22/2002 4:11:01 PM PST by shezza
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To: Cascadians
Yes... Monica told me the other day that the police thought the child was linked... And my surmising was that when the Amber Alert went out he realized he had made a BIG mistake!
1,529 posted on 11/22/2002 4:40:19 PM PST by TankGurrrl
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To: shezza
I'll second that Alice bump. Has anyone seen any new news?
1,530 posted on 11/22/2002 4:41:53 PM PST by Velveeta
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To: VadeRetro
Very, very interesting.... she visited him the day before and didn't know he escaped when he showed up at her door... Ummm... whatever. He must have forgotten to mention he was being released...
1,531 posted on 11/22/2002 4:45:08 PM PST by TankGurrrl
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To: Velveeta
Hi peoples... I'm back... no Alice. :( We did some searching, especially at a rest area on the NC/SC border that's right above Little River.. it has alot of woods behind it and Monica really wanted to dig around in there... We did... but came up empty. The attendants however, told us it hadn't been searched before... so it at least made me feel emotionally better to dig around in the woods... And I learned alot about how to spot broken twigs and branches and woods that have been walked through and such...

We did see something at one point... it turned out to be an old twisted up tarp partially buried under leaves... but I can't describe how your stomach turns when you see such a thing...

I do feel better having done some searching... and I definitely have more respect for those that are... there are a myriad of possible places since this area is basically all rural from Wilmington to Myrtle Beach...

It's going to get cold here tonight... our forecast is down to 36... :( Things just aren't looking good are they? :(( And especially with another girl missing longer... and the perps not telling.. makes me think they DON'T want her found...

And why was the other girl's car BURNED.... I thought they normally STOLE cars... not burned them... burning makes me think of "covering foul play"... I hope I'm wrong.

Does anyone know in the timeline if their INITIAL trip through Huntington the day the other girl was abducted (the 11th I think) was BEFORE or AFTER they picked up the "girlfriend/jail guard person"? I'm tired and just couldn't remember WHEN they ditched the first abducted guy's truck in Indiana, and when they picked up the girlfriend... was there time in between for them to GO TO HUNTINGTON? Or would GF been with them??

If anyone knows, let me know... Going in to have worship with the family...
1,532 posted on 11/22/2002 4:52:36 PM PST by TankGurrrl
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To: TankGurrrl
.... she visited him the day before and didn't know he escaped when he showed up at her door...

And they were engaged. She had to believe that he forgot to tell her he was getting out, so their wedding could be moved up.

The other funny thing, from one of the other stories, was that Fulks was with her when the news of Basham's arrest was broadcast. This from CFW's 1465:

By 1 p.m. Nov. 15, Basham and Fulks had traveled more than 500 miles from Myrtle Beach to McGuffin's West Virginia home.

During the two days they spent there, the men appeared nervous at times, she said, and often spoke in hushed tones in corners of her house. She couldn't hear what, or whom, they were talking about.

"They never said nothing about that woman," she said Thursday.

McGuffin said Fulks and Basham, who told her his name was Tommy Blake, left her home together Sunday afternoon. Fulks returned alone.

Later that night, the lead story on the news was the arrest of a man who tried to carjack two women in nearby Ashland, Ky., before a gunfight with police. Police later identified him as Basham.

"I hit Chad's leg and I said, 'Chad, was that the guy who was just in my house?'" McGuffin said. "He pretended like he was as surprised as I was."

After Basham's arrest, Fulks stayed in Huntington for two more days, leaving Tuesday, McGuffin said. He didn't stay with her Sunday or Monday, but he visited her both days.

She knows from the news that "Tommy Blake" has been arrested as Basham, but doesn't know that her fiancee sitting next to her is also wanted? That Alice Donovan is missing?

She's low-down and dirty.

1,533 posted on 11/22/2002 4:58:20 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Actually Vade... they wrote about two different women in the same article and it did get rather confusing.... The one he was with when the arrest of Basham happened was the "old friend from grade school"... the girlfriend was still awaiting his return at the motel in Myrtle Beach... :(
1,534 posted on 11/22/2002 5:00:20 PM PST by TankGurrrl
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To: TankGurrrl
I wondered how she got out of Myrtle Beach and then back ...

[Slinking away]

1,535 posted on 11/22/2002 5:01:21 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Cascadians
Bttt.

5.56mm

1,536 posted on 11/22/2002 5:05:07 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: VadeRetro
JPD posted in an article on a previous page of the TB2K thread:

" ... Fulks and McGuffin knew each other from their early school days in Lincoln County, W.Va. She said he was a good kid who kept in touch with her ... Five months ago, Fulks, his wife, Veronica Evans, and their baby showed up on her doorstep ... "

We are dizzy trying to keep track of all the wives, ex-wives, girlfriends, fiancés, groupies, and assorted trash that proclaim "know nothing" and helped these 2 monstrous perps on their crime binge.
1,537 posted on 11/22/2002 5:08:11 PM PST by Cascadians
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To: Cascadians
posted from TB2K from Sgrl Grl:

Don't know if this has been asked, but.... has anyone checked the hospitals for Alice?

My eldest son went missing many years ago, and I found him (throat cut) by checking every hospital I could find.

jat

SG

1,538 posted on 11/22/2002 5:17:47 PM PST by expose1
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To: TankGurrrl
other girl's car BURNED.... I thought they normally STOLE cars... not burned them

Yes that is not their MO. Personally I don't think that the two guys we are lokking at DID that kidnapping that disappearance has the earmarks of a kidnap/murder or possibly an acqaintance murder where they burned the car to hide evidence. As for her ATM card did it say that someone 'attempted" to use it or DID use it? If just attempt then the person who took the ATM card could have givin it to another person saying, here man take this the pin is _ _ _ _ or betteer left it in a purse WITH a fake pin where a hoodlum is bound to find it. Nothing better to get the heat off you than someone elses pic taken trying to cash in on the missing persons card.

These small time hoodlum "carjackers" have been operating and running scams like this in my area for awhile now. It is a known fact that sometimes a van of 6-8 guys will come into a rural town from SF or Sacramento and drop all passengers off. They get their own way back home with a new car. First stop, chop shop.
Their favorite and most NON threatening way to get a car is to just walk around in the early AM before people go to work. They wait for someone to come out start their car and leave it running while they go back inside.

1,539 posted on 11/22/2002 5:18:19 PM PST by alexandria
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To: Cascadians
Yeah. Even when you're straightened out on who's who, it's obvious people would have known. A local boy broke out of jail and is now suspected of kidnap but nobody in his hometown knows anything is going on.

Really, really disgusting.
1,540 posted on 11/22/2002 5:19:39 PM PST by VadeRetro
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