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To: Jorge
Now your just getting nasty.

You know that I am right, you just don't like the fact that I made an end run around your argument.

I like to let guys like you go on and on about your opinion and dig your holes. Bottom line is Jesus is God and God has "spoke out" concerning homosexuality.

I said Jesus spoke out about homosexuality and Jesus has. The only way to ignore this is to say Jesus is NOT God.

You said Jesus did not say anything about homosexuality so I assume you don't believe in Jesus as the deity. A safe assumption bearing in mind your statements about what Jesus said and did not say, knowing full well that God did say.

You must separate Jesus from God to say Jesus did not speak to homosexuality.

So, you sir, must accept that Jesus has made His statement on the matter or come out and say you do not believe in the Trinity.

199 posted on 11/25/2002 10:46:31 AM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: CyberCowboy777
Now your just getting nasty.

I'm sorry you feel that way. If you can show me where I've actually been nasty toward you I will apologize. OK?

You know that I am right, you just don't like the fact that I made an end run around your argument.

I do agree that rather than respond to my challenge head on you have instead attempted to "make an end run AROUND" it.

You said that Jesus "spoke out" against homosexuality.

I challenged you to show me a single quote from the Bible to support that claim.
Show me ONE VERSE.
I'm still waiting.

BUT once again, just so you don't misrepresent my argument. I never said that God and the Bible didn't call homosexuality a sin. It is clearly a sin. And I'm sure Jesus believed it was a sin.
But according the Bible, Jesus never actually chose to speak out on the subject.
He spoke out on many issues of sin, but this was not one of them.
Your statement is factually wrong.

You must separate Jesus from God to say Jesus did not speak to homosexuality.

No I don't. All I have to do is recognize Jesus as a distinct Person of the Trinity.....just as the writers of the Bible did when attributing quotes to Him.

Why didn't the apostles and writers of the New Testament when recording what Jesus actually spoke about just throw in any of the Old Testament quotes from God and claim Jesus stated them?
Are you saying they denied the Trinity, or the Diety of Christ as you accuse me of doing?

This is an absurd and convoluted argument you've constructed in an attempt to avoid admitting what you said was wrong.

The fact is ONLY Jesus is God in the flesh. Jesus is a distinct member of the Trinity.
And according to everything recorded in the Bible, Jesus NEVER actually "spoke out" against homosexuality, or bestiality, or incest or any number of sins.

That is what the Bible says. Unless of course you don't beleive the Bible?

204 posted on 11/25/2002 4:06:37 PM PST by Jorge
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