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To: CyberCowboy777
Your really stretching it here, because Jesus does not say the actual word "Homosexual" you want to believe that it is permissive for a Christian or that it is not a sin?

Huh? Who said that?

I said;
"Not that homosexuality isn't clearly defined as sin by the Bible. It is."

It helps to actually read a post before you respond to it. Ok? Just a suggestion.

Because Jesus does not say the word "rape" or address it directly is rape okay?

Of course not. Jesus didn't address incest or bestiality either and nobody in their right mind would believe this means He thinks these things are OK.

But again, you miss my point.
Firstly I was responding to your claim that Jesus "spoke out" against homosexuals.
The fact is Jesus never actually spoke out against homosexuals. Your statement was factually wrong.

Secondly, the fact that Jesus might have been against many things He never directly addressed does nothing to support your attempt to use Jesus to defend Jerry Falwell pointing at "homosexuals, pagans and feminists" as bringing God's judgement upon America on 9-11.

By your reasoning we could also say that since lying, adultery, lust, greed, gossip and self righteousness are sins that Jesus was against, therefore 9-11 was a judgement against those things.

The fact is Jerry Falwell picked out those sins which he personally finds most offensive and blamed them for 9-11.
When the fact is He doesn't have a clue.

194 posted on 11/22/2002 4:15:20 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Jesus did directly address homosexuality; you just won't accept His deity. Who is Jesus?

You should go re-read my comments as to what I said, not what you think I said.

I defended the position that Jesus did speak inflammatory and divisive rhetoric. It may not seem like inflammatory and divisive rhetoric to you, but it was to many and still is.

I also said that a peoples turning from God (for whatever reason) has lead to His removal of protection. This concept is well documented and though causes range (baby killing, paganism and sexual immorality are a few) the fact remains that God will allow trouble. There is nothing wrong with taking note that something changed and that we may need to look inward.

This does not take away the fact that the terrorist are responsible for their actions, my sin does not cancel out yours. It only means that the sins and atrocities of the Ammonites could be allowed to harm the children of Gilead. A consequence of a world without God, a world they choose when they turned from God.

And yes lying, adultery, lust, greed, gossip and self-righteousness are sins that WILL lead to judgment. Individually or collectively it will come.

God would have spared Sodom had he found just a few more faithful, do we have enough?

And yet to whom much is given, much is expected. And we have been given much more that Sodom.
195 posted on 11/22/2002 4:37:39 PM PST by CyberCowboy777
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