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To: CyberCowboy777
"Jesus spoke out mostly against the established Jewish religious leaders..the Pharisees...He said very little about pagan religions and never even mentioned homosexuality directly anywhere in the Bible." ROTFLMAO! You must be reading that PC version Bible. The one where they take out all the inflammatory and divisive rhetoric!

Jesus not only spoke to the sin of paganism and homosexuality (a fairly new word btw, look for the words they used like effeminate), He also affirmed that he came to to change the law but to fulfill it.

Show me one quote from Jesus where He mentions homosexuality in the Bible.
You can't because He doesn't even address the topic.

Not that homosexuality isn't clearly defined as sin by the Bible. It is.
But you claimed "Jesus spoke out against Pagans, Homosexuals and the establishment religions" when the truth is there isn't a single quote from Jesus in the Bible on the topic of homosexuality.

Futhermore, I never said anything about taking inflammatory or divisive rhetotic and a single word out of the Bible.
But I did say that the issues/people Falwell and Robertson, and you seem to think Jesus was most critical of, were either not mentioned by Him at all or were barely mentioned.
As I said before, Jesus saved His most scathing criticisms for the self-righteous religeous leaders who thought they were so much better than everybody else. The Pharisees. And the rhetoric of Falwell and Robertson following 9-11, pointing their fingers at others resembled just these people.

190 posted on 11/21/2002 6:36:30 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Your really stretching it here, because Jesus does not say the actual word "Homosexual" you want to believe that it is permissive for a Christian or that it is not a sin? Because Jesus does not say the word "rape" or address it directly is rape okay? What you would like to do is remove Christ from the Bible and place Him in your own context, removing His loyalties and affirmation to the Law of God, of whom he is apart.

Jesus clearly made known His views concerning homosexuality in direct affirmation of Gods Laws and affirmation of heterosexuality and in Gods statements on the matter (as Jesus is God, I guess Jesus did say something directly to the matter) and though His Apostles.

You must go against the foundational principle of God in three persons to avoid the law of God spoken by God, which would include Jesus. Only God can change the law or the punishment of sin and Jesus did not remove homosexuality from the sin column, He changed the punishment time table and allowed for a pardon upon repentance and acceptance of His Godhood and sacrifice. These are very basic principles and I am not sure why so many Christians never learn them.

To remove Jesus from the Transcendent Godhood or to rationalize what is sin and what is not sin based on the lack of direct statement from one personhood of God is neo-paganism. It also violates the very words of Jesus as He did not nor could He contradict God (or Himself as it is).

Lastly, Jesus was most critical of sin, all sin being sin.

192 posted on 11/22/2002 9:47:16 AM PST by CyberCowboy777
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