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To: DoughtyOne
This has led to a situation where land owners are having to find ways to remedy this situation on their own. What started out as an invasion without remedy, is now turning into an invasion with a make shift remedy. And I'm here to tell you that the same Presidency, House and Senate that over the last thirty years couldn't pull their head out of their ass long enough to address this issue by putting military on the border, will soon within months of the land owners saying enough is enough, put troops on our border. "Good" you might say. Not so fast.

There is a better than 50/50 chance they will prevent land owners from taking up arms to stop this invasion. The troops will be placed on the border so that land owners won't be able to stop this. And when they get there, they will allow the illegal to pass in the same manner they have for decades. The border patrol at this time has been ordered not to impede illegals on their way northward. We have sanctioned open borders. Does anyone think our federal officials are going to allow land owners to set national policy? Dream on, if you do.

I am sad to totally agree with you. And here just DAYS after Janet Napolitano gave her victory speech as Governor Elect of our once great state of Arizona, I find this article tucked away in a small publication in the Southern part of the state. She's already packing for trip to Mexico to meet with the (open) Border Governor's who've been working on their Agenda for 20 years. But, then again, Matt Salmon promised to work with the Border Govenor's if he was elected. I don't think you can say NO!

No news that when Fox and Bush were governors, they participated in this BG BiNational master plan. So they let the border situation get so heated that citizens, with all good intentions, volunteer to help out, then here comes Homeland Security with a reformed government to take over. How does it go? Order out of Chaos? Two years ago I knew nothing about this, and now its unbearably clear.

Sierra Vista Herald, Friday, Nov. 15, 2002

Napolitano: Border is a priority

BY BILL HESS

Herald/Review

PHOENIX -- How to help rural Arizona counties, especially those along the U.S.-Mexico border, is one of the priorities Governor-elect Janet Napolitano said she will work on during her administration.

While the problems of border counties are not on the back burner, Napolitano said she will first take care of the state's budget crisis and clean up Arizona's educational woes.

Part of the state's economic well-being is tied to the border and the nations south of the United States, she said in a telephone interview Wednesday.

"Arizona is the gate to the south, and I don't just mean Mexico," Napolitano said. Mexico is the main trade partner for Arizona, but the governor-elect said Arizona has to look beyond its immediate neighbor to the south at markets in Central and South America.

Next week, Napolitano will travel with Gov. Jane Hull to Mexico to meet with Mexico's border governors and Mexican President Vicente Fox. "I'm going as an observer," Napolitano said.

A big believer in technology, she said she wants the federal government to do more at the ports of entry in Arizona to make it easier for traffic bringing the flow of goods north. With technology, the federal government can create cyberports instead of using a large numbers of people, who can be better used for other border functions, Napolitano said.Wonder why Jane couldn't get this done?

The whole border issue has to be addressed by the federal government, and that includes establishing a new guest-worker program, which she supports, she said.

Napolitano said she will not militarize the border by using armed Arizona National Guard forces. "The border has to be taken care of by the feds."

She also said that when illegal immigrants or drug smugglers come across the border, the federal, state and local law enforcement agencies are the only ones who should handle the situation.

The governor-elect said she opposes any group of civilians acting, in her words, as vigilantes. "Law enforcement should be done by law enforcement."Well Janet, you were to Top Cop (AG) for the last 4 years while these problems have escalated!

75 posted on 11/15/2002 2:46:57 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly; Spiff; DoughtyOne
Thank you, there's my point again about vigilantism.

It isn't happening, but that doesn't stop Janet Na-Politburo from making the claim. Top Cop? What a friggin' joke.
78 posted on 11/15/2002 2:59:44 PM PST by HiJinx
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To: madfly
I do not think it wise to allow tens of millions of citizens from any nation to enter the US in a short period of time. The open borders folks think new laws that will allow all that wish to flood north to do so legally, will fix everything. It will not fix everything. Our infrastructure cannot handle tens of millions of people flooding northward. Assimilation, public services, water availability, highways, homes, communities, local state and federal government, elections and a host of other issues are tied up in this. Open borders is insanity.

Who is it that first coined the idea that tens of millions of Mexican citizens had a manifest right to come here? I'd like to know. Why do they have that right?

The government of Mexico needs to clean up it's act. It needs to spur corporations and small businesses to the degree that it's citizens will prosper on it's side of the border. We have no obligation whatsoever to fix Mexico. Mexico has that obligation.

We do have a responsibility to provide a nice home for our own citizens. With just three issues I can represent this issue easily.

Can Los Angeles Freeways where the average commute speed is now between 15 and 30 miles per hour, handle another five million drivers in three years? Can the LAUSD handle another 2 million students in three years, despite the fact that k-12 grade campuses now look like a mobil home park, due to the explosive student populations? Can Southern California which is already struggling to provide water to the folks who are here, handle an additional ten million residents in three years?

Those who suggest that open borders would solve all our problems, are ignorant beyond redemption on these issue.

85 posted on 11/15/2002 3:15:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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