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Hmmm ... do you know what a Section 8 is? It is one of many forms of corruption in the "competitive bidding" system. In addition to the pain and agony of section eight and all the paperwork and bonding needed know that bids are often written in such a way that the CO or other Federal pensionaire can kick anyone he/she's not "happy wirh" dead, should they *magically* happen to win the bid.

I hope this isn't the "Help Put a Federal CO's Kid through an Ivy League College and Provide a Summer Home at a Decent Resort" Act. When white male owned small companies start getting a good number of these jobs, let me know. Then I'll raise a toast.

You must be talking about the 8a set-side that is for minority owned/women owned businesses. Most of their contracts are not high dollar. They are awarded in AFMC which I am the most familiar with. For 8 years they get preferential treatment in getting contracts but they cannot just sit back and do nothing or perform badly or they will not get anymore contracts.

Know some 8a contractors that have done some great work and others that our louzy. But then that can be said of the other contractors as well -- some are good and some are really bad.

The big guys still get the larger contracts and those companies are white male dominated -- if you don't believe me look at Boeing, Lockheed-Martin; TRW and the list goes on and on.

They are also stiffened the rules on 8a is my understanding and they don't have as many set-asides as they used to have!

Hmmm ... do you know what a Section 8 is?

Is this the same section 8 that is used to ruin older suburban neighborhoods when an aprtment complex starts taking section 8 rent vouchers from the government? We have one of these travisties in one corner of my town. The 35 year old, approximately 100 unit, apartment complex started taking section 8 vouchers almost 2 years ago. They also limited the income of the renters. No single person who makes over $17,000/year need apply. If you listen carefully on a quiet day, you can hear the property values of the surrounding homeowners drop.

Let's see...move out the people with decent incomes, replace them with people making about minimum wage (and refuse to renew their lease if they get a raise) and add a bunch of rent-subsidized trash. Gee, what a great idea! Since this happened, a friend of mine who bought a house near there a few years ago has seen his area go from almost crime free to having his car and garage broken into every few months.