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To: B4Ranch
Or what is ther comittees agenda? Stop the investigation before it gets out of hand?

Yes, I believe that is the agenda. Reser is a nut. But he is not connected with Jayna Davis and her groundbreaking investigation. Reser is a guy, that I believe was looking for his 15 minutes. Not uncommon in this sort of thing. Remember the guy in DC that claimed to have seen 2 middle eastern guys in a cream colored van during the sniper incident. As a former LEO member, I can say, that in all big investigations, there is a certain number of supposed "witnesses" that come out of the woodwork to try and get their 15 minutes. The sad fact is that Reser is damaging the efforts of those who truely have evidence. I was there on 4-19, in LE, and within minutes of the blast, there were numerous witnesses interviewed that observed 2-3 middle eastern males fleeing the scene at a high rate of speed. In fact, there were BOLOS put out over the police radio looking for 2-3 middle eastern males in a certain vehicle. I have a copy of the police tapes. The authorization was the FBI. There was extensive discussion at the command post at 7th and Harvey between FBI and local officials regarding the middle eastern suspects.

Jayna Davis has around 20 affidavits from various witnesses that have identified McVeigh in the company of ME males days before and up to the morning of 4-19, and witnesses placing a ME male exiting the truck. She has even identified John Doe #2, and to this day, the Justice Department has not cleared or exonerated that man. He sued Jayna but a federal court judge threw out the suit because the evidence that Jayna had compiled against him was so strong. After his suit was dismissed, he left Oklahoma City, and moved to Boston and began working at Logan International Airport. Unusual coincidence, don't you think. This is fact. I have seen the documents to prove it.

As to the buildings across the street. They were destroyed by the bomb. They didn't completely fall down from the blast, but neither did the Murrah building. But the two buildings in question, "the Oklahoma Water Resources Board" building, and the "Athenian" were both so extremely, severely damaged, that portions collapsed on 4-19, and the remainder of the buildings had to be razed because they were so structurally damaged that they couldn't remain or be repaired. In fact, some of the fatilities came from these two buildings.

As to the claim that there were other bombs in the building, that is nonsense. There were items discovered in the ATF office that appeared to firemen to be explosives (possibly the fake TOW missile) but they were quickly discovered to be false alarms. I was there when that occurred. It did provide for several minutes of "oh sh!t" reactions from all of us, and we were evacuated, but it was soon cleared up.

There is just too much evidence proving ME involvement. But there are now too many buried bodies for the Feds to allow an official investigation to go forward.

27 posted on 11/14/2002 6:49:16 AM PST by yukong
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To: yukong
Thank you very much for your eyewitness input. That you were actually there during the investigation and feel that way is very interesting indeed.
37 posted on 11/14/2002 8:06:35 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: yukong
>>Yes, I believe that is the agenda. Reser is a nut. But he is not connected with Jayna Davis and her groundbreaking investigation.<<

Yes he is. From today's Dallas Morning News...
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Ms. Davis said she helped fund her work with a $57,000 donation from the same Chicago-area real estate magnate who gave large donations to other conspiracy theorists and causes before his death in August.

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Ms. Davis acknowledged that she used some of Mr. Magnus' donation to pay Mr. Reser to work as an investigator late last year. She said she then asked Mr. Reser in January to write the three-page affidavit in which he praised her work and detailed his claims about seeing a dramatic videotape proving Middle Eastern involvement.

Didn't rely on it

Ms. Davis said Tuesday that she was concerned by the allegation that Mr. Reser had lied, but she added that she had no idea until she was told by congressional investigators that they were having difficulty verifying many of his claims.

"I don't think it reflects upon this investigation, my research," she said, adding that she was involved with Mr. Reser only briefly and relied little on his work.

But others who embrace her belief that the Iraqi government was somehow involved in the 1995 attack say they fear that it could harm efforts to prove their case.

"It's unfortunate because it's going to diminish the value of the good work she did, and it's going to hurt our side of the question as to whether or not there was more to the Oklahoma City bombing," said Mike Johnston, a lawyer who filed a wrongful death lawsuit in March against the government of Iraq on behalf of a survivors' group.

Mr. Johnston said his concerns about Mr. Reser led him to warn Ms. Davis last fall that the officer was lying about some aspects of his background and couldn't be trusted. But he said Ms. Davis responded by telling him in writing that he was fired from her effort to develop a lawsuit against Iraq, a letter that was among materials on Mr. Reser sent to the Justice Department.

"She took the position that he had better contacts than me, he had better information, and he was in a better position to talk with people in the government," Mr. Johnston said. "It's just unfortunate that she was so gullible."
50 posted on 11/14/2002 8:47:14 AM PST by xtrmst
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To: yukong
I hope you are wrong. I hope that Jayna Davis's information is brought before the committee. Her reports are too alarming, and if Reser lied, too bad. He needs to be punished. Jayna's information is still out there-and I for one would love to know if the truth of the affidavit's she TRIED (but was refused) to turn over to the FBI in Okla (which refused to accept them under orders from the FBI office and DOJ lawyers-Reno's goons, of course-in Denver, Co, where the main show was being run.
77 posted on 11/14/2002 11:49:36 AM PST by Republic
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To: yukong; honway; TXnMA; thinden; rubbertramp
Release The Videotapes
By Notra Trulock, III
November 8, 2002

In 1995, the worst act of terrorism on American soil, prior to the 9/11 disaster, was committed in Oklahoma City. On April 19, terrorists blew up the Murrah Federal Building and killed 168 Americans and wounded scores more. Not long after the bombing, Timothy McVeigh was arrested about 60 miles east of Oklahoma City and a few days later Terry Nichols surrendered to police in Herrington, Kansas. With those arrests, the Justice Department shut down any further investigation into who had committed this awful crime.

But like the Kennedy assassination, many Americans remained deeply skeptical about the government’s assurances that McVeigh and Nichols acted alone in this horrible crime. And for good reason, as it seems that the FBI ignored important investigative leads, failed to interview potentially significant witnesses, and destroyed the Murrah building before experts could examine the crime scene. The involvement of a John Doe Number Two in the bombing has remained a simmering controversy. Skeptics ask why the FBI canceled an all-points-bulletin for a Middle Eastern male subject or subjects fleeing the scene issued in the immediate aftermath of the explosion. Numerous eyewitness accounts have identified Middle Eastern males in the company of McVeigh in the days and weeks before the bombing.

Dr. Frederic Whitehurst’s allegations against the FBI crime lab sparked a Justice Department investigation that found the lab had provided "inaccurate pro-prosecution testimony in major cases including Oklahoma City." Retired Air Force General Benton K. Partin, an explosive expert, disputed the FBI’s theory that the damage to the Murrah Building was caused by a single truck-bomb. His analyses were later endorsed by numerous physicists, physical chemists, and experts in structural mechanics as well as a series of live tests conducted at Eglin Air Force Base. These are just some of the lingering questions about the 1995 bombing.

Beyond covering McVeigh’s execution and the FBI foul-ups that delayed it, the mainstream media have devoted little effort to digging into any of these questions. Concerned citizens have had to go to Internet media outlets like World Net Daily and Newsmax or be on the lookout for the occasional investigative report in obscure outlets like the Los Angeles Weekly or the London Evening Standard. In early September, the Wall Street Journal did one column on its editorial page about possible Iraqi involvement in Oklahoma City and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, but seemed to lose interest after that.

One columnist who has refused to let the story die is James Patterson, an editorial writer at the Indianapolis Star. Patterson was one of the first to report a potential crack in the wall of silence erected around the Oklahoma City bombing by the government and the elite media. Twice in recent months, Patterson has reported that Chairman Dan Burton’s House Government Reform Committee investigators have uncovered the possible whereabouts of videotapes and photographs of the Murrah Federal Building from the day of the bombing. The Final Report of the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee (OKBIC) noted the existence of such tapes, but the Justice Department has adamantly refused to release them, even in response to Freedom of Information Act requests. Burton believes that the tapes and photographs may be held in the archives of Naval Intelligence at the Washington Navy Yard and he has issued a subpoena to the Secretary of the Navy to obtain them. The tapes are said to contain video of a John Doe Number Two getting out on the passenger side of the Ryder truck just prior to the explosion.

Former FBI Deputy Director Weldon Kennedy told the Philadelphia Inquirer that talk of withheld videotapes is "ludicrous and insulting." Kennedy says that agents nailed down "98 to 99 percent" of McVeigh and Nichols’ movements in the months before the bombing and he is absolutely convinced they acted alone. Cate McCauley, who worked on McVeigh’s appeal, goes beyond Kennedy and charges that talk of Middle Eastern men helping McVeigh is "perhaps the worse case of misinformation and pandering" she has come across. The allegations, she says, are easily refutable and those who promote them are "standing on the graves of thousands of people."

A quick, easy way to resolve the controversy over John Doe Number 2 would be to simply release the videotapes and photographs and let the American public judge for itself. Release the tapes and bring this case to closure. The victims of the Oklahoma City bombing deserve nothing less.

Notra Trulock is Associate Editor of the AIM Report

80 posted on 11/14/2002 4:03:48 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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