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To: Rockitz
I had a very long post making a answer to all your points and it was just too long.

I will say this - George Bush was not elected to be the savior of the Islamic world. He was elected to be the President of the United States and I do not believe ever in the history of the world, a war has been won by 'loving' - or by appeasment.

In my opinion, President Bush has ignored and threatened the American people while doing the Dale Carnegie, 'positive reinforcement' route with the Muslims. Have we seen any improvement in a year? No, now they have gotten President Bush to turn on the Christian religion to keep from offending them. How long before we know his approach is working - how many years - how much will be left of this country - and what happens if his experiment doesn't work?

Saint? Well, only God knows - but count me as a skeptic

Now you are saying in order to win this war - and he has called it a war - we must bring our enemy into our bosom so we can love and understand them - then we will not have to kill them. WEll, you are right on one account, we won't have to kill them - we will be the ones who are killed. 'You knew I was a snake when you put me in your pocket'.

Now no offense, call me crazy but I don't want Dale Carnegie or Mr. Rogers, or a saint leading this nation into battle - I vote for a Patton, MacArthur, Stormin' Norman, or someone of their ilk.

85 posted on 11/13/2002 8:48:31 PM PST by nanny
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To: nanny
I agree with President Bush.
He is standing up strong against radical Islam, the terrorists, etc. Look at his ACTIONS: He kicked the radical Taliban's butt all over Afghanistan, killing thousands of them in the process. He is killing Al Qaeda one at a time or by the bushelful. He IS protecting America by wanting to pre-emptively get rid of Saddam before he has nukes. He plans on having a missile defense system for the country and our allies. Do these ACTIONS sound like those of a naive person soft on radical islam and on his duty to protect the country?
He is not dissing Christians. I agree with Pat Robertson in principle, but by comparing all muslims to nazis, he didn't do any better than the demoRATS calling Republicans...well take your pick... Instead, he should have been specific about some of the stuff that's in the Koran...you know...specific TRUTHS!! As it is, he put President Bush in a bind because if he doesn't say anything, it's as if he agrees with that name calling.

Another point: for those who want to kill all muslims because they're just "trash", I'm glad Jesus Christ didn't feel that way, because in his eyes we were trash and he still did the ultimate sacrifice to redeem us. We should on the other hand stand up very firmly to radical Islam and believe them when they say they want to kill all infidels. I speak from experience as I'm from the Middle East.

Also, while trying to convert muslims, just remember that their Koran says that any muslim that converts away from Islam should be killed. Don't you love that freedom of choice? I think they should wonder why their God would have Mohammad write stuff like that; I mean why give human beings the opportunity to chose if that's the way he wants it?!!
86 posted on 11/13/2002 9:15:02 PM PST by winner3000
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To: nanny
With all due respect, let's get real. It is absolutely critical for our very survival that Bush keep this a war against terrorists and totalitarian regimes and not against the religion of Islam. This immediately limits the number of our enemies from the start and in the process avails most Muslims to our point of view, permits joint focus on common goals, and, in general, maintains a tenuous, yet workable, sense of decorum. If you are a religious person and someone insults your faith how eager are you to engage that person in any discourse? It would be foolhearty to immediately make nearly a billion enemies by espousing the kinds of things that the religious right is saying right now, even if they are true. President Bush is a pragmatist (he believes that the end justifies the means). Pragmatism is not a sign of weakness, it's absolute brilliance! It's unfortunate that so few see this. Get a clue, people!

Some advice- don't go into politics, business, or diplomacy. You'll be eaten alive.

93 posted on 11/13/2002 11:16:27 PM PST by Rockitz
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