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To: nanny
I agree with President Bush.
He is standing up strong against radical Islam, the terrorists, etc. Look at his ACTIONS: He kicked the radical Taliban's butt all over Afghanistan, killing thousands of them in the process. He is killing Al Qaeda one at a time or by the bushelful. He IS protecting America by wanting to pre-emptively get rid of Saddam before he has nukes. He plans on having a missile defense system for the country and our allies. Do these ACTIONS sound like those of a naive person soft on radical islam and on his duty to protect the country?
He is not dissing Christians. I agree with Pat Robertson in principle, but by comparing all muslims to nazis, he didn't do any better than the demoRATS calling Republicans...well take your pick... Instead, he should have been specific about some of the stuff that's in the Koran...you know...specific TRUTHS!! As it is, he put President Bush in a bind because if he doesn't say anything, it's as if he agrees with that name calling.

Another point: for those who want to kill all muslims because they're just "trash", I'm glad Jesus Christ didn't feel that way, because in his eyes we were trash and he still did the ultimate sacrifice to redeem us. We should on the other hand stand up very firmly to radical Islam and believe them when they say they want to kill all infidels. I speak from experience as I'm from the Middle East.

Also, while trying to convert muslims, just remember that their Koran says that any muslim that converts away from Islam should be killed. Don't you love that freedom of choice? I think they should wonder why their God would have Mohammad write stuff like that; I mean why give human beings the opportunity to chose if that's the way he wants it?!!
86 posted on 11/13/2002 9:15:02 PM PST by winner3000
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To: winner3000
[He is standing up strong against radical Islam, the terrorists, etc. Look at his ACTIONS: He kicked the radical Taliban's butt all over Afghanistan, killing thousands of them in the process. He is killing Al Qaeda one at a time or by the bushelful. He IS protecting America by wanting to pre-emptively get rid of Saddam before he has nukes. He plans on having a missile defense system for the country and our allies. Do these ACTIONS sound like those of a naive person soft on radical islam and on his duty to protect the country?]

I honestly don't know what to think of some of President Bush's actions. While I agree we should have gone to Afghanistan - but why did we not take precautions here at home? And we did not - there is no way you can say we did. He did not close the borders - he just allowed his INS head to tell the BP to 'Shut UP and TAke It'. He still played footsy with Fox and was either unwilling or afraid to close the borders to protect us. You just don't stir up a hornet's nest like the Al Queda and then leave your doors and windows open. That is what he did. He continued to let men from ME come in to take 'flying lessons'. Just now he is proposing to fingerprint ME folks coming into this country!! He was right going to Afghanistan - but he did not do what was needed to protect this country. There was danger from there, but there was and is danger right here and they are still coming. The little 1 at a time - 5 at a time, etc. just will not get the job done. It will take years at that rate. I will bet more are coming each day than he is catching.

I know he is reshuffling the INS, etc. - but that will take a lot of time to get it going once it is rearranged. We have adequate laws in place to protect us now. Just use them. But, personally, I believe the reshuffling, etc., is just a smokescreen. I think theya re worried because some of the American people can see he is not enforcing the law, but disregarding the law. Now if he can rearrange the agencies, it will take some time before people we be able to see just how little is being done there.

As far as Iraq - I don't know exactly what he is doing, I, just like everyone else, has to pray he knows what he is doing and it is for a good reason and gets the job done.]

[ He is not dissing Christians. I agree with Pat Robertson in principle, but by comparing all muslims to nazis, he didn't do any better than the demoRATS calling Republicans...well take your pick... Instead, he should have been specific about some of the stuff that's in the Koran...you know...specific TRUTHS!! As it is, he put President Bush in a bind because if he doesn't say anything, it's as if he agrees with that name calling.]

No he did not have to say anything. It is a religious matter - not a political matter. He did diss the Chritians - there is no way around it. Has he mentioned to the Muslims they have not come out in force to side with America? NO! All he has done is treat the American people to 'tolerance' lessons and threats if they dare do anything - and 'anything' might just mean speaking out. No, it was not the President's place to get involved in a religious issue. Not at all- not at all. Once again, he has shown that the Americans, especially the conservative and especially the Christians do not matter. It is just that simple to me.

[Another point: for those who want to kill all muslims because they're just "trash", I'm glad Jesus Christ didn't feel that way, because in his eyes we were trash and he still did the ultimate sacrifice to redeem us. We should on the other hand stand up very firmly to radical Islam and believe them when they say they want to kill all infidels. I speak from experience as I'm from the Middle East.]

I don't know for sure, but I don't think either of these two ministers suggested we should kill all of them. Am I wrong? I know I didn't. I have no problem with redeeming the Islamic people or anyone else. But that is not the job of the President of the United States. He is not our religious figurehead, nor is he our Sunday School teacher. He needs to stay the heck out of religious matters and that is just what this was. Since youa re from the Middle East - I assume you do have a bit of a prejudiced view of things as I do since I am from America. There is no hatred in my heart for anyone - but there is anger, fear and distrust. It is just folly to suppose that you can continue to disregard the safety and wishes of the people of your own country and still be respected as a leader of that country.

Now someone called President Bush a saint. Believe me a saint doesn't get to be President of the US and that kind of attitude frightens me. It is so dangerous.

[Also, while trying to convert muslims, just remember that their Koran says that any muslim that converts away from Islam should be killed. Don't you love that freedom of choice? I think they should wonder why their God would have Mohammad write stuff like that; I mean why give human beings the opportunity to chose if that's the way he wants it?!!]

I have no problem with anyone believing anything they choose. That is their choice. It is not President Bush's job to convert them. Just to see that this country is protected so it can prosper. Anything else is not in his contract. As a Christian, if he wants to do what he can personally, fine, but as a President stay out of it. Now isn't it odd that he can use his office as President to chastise Christians for their speech about another religion - yet he is unwilling to use that same office to speak out against abortion?

You say you are from the ME. What nationality are you - or should I say what ethnicity are you? What have to tapdance around words these days - lest we offend someone and I do not intend to be offensive. How long have you been in America? I am just trying to see why our attitudes are so different.

99 posted on 11/14/2002 10:51:47 AM PST by nanny
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