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To: FormerLurker; parkerzone; hedgetrimmer; A. Pole; Crispy; blueriver; SR71A; DoughtyOne; greggy; ...
Its a bit dated (18 months ago) but here is a legal advice column helpfully titled Legal Rejection of U.S. Workers. It is full of useful information for employers who want to hire non-US citizens preferentially. I love the concluding sentence so much I will highlight it here: "Employers who favor aliens have an arsenal of legal means to reject all U.S. workers who apply."

That just about says it all.

Interestingly, if you read the whole article, it appears to favor hiring US workers. But if you read the 1st paragraph and the last sentence, what it lays out is basically the rules and regulations that have to be worked around to legally hire an alien.

Here is published paper titled How and Why Government, Universities, and Industry Create Domestic Labor Shortages of Scientists and High-Tech Workers.

Refering to this paper, Dr. Markoff says "Amazingly, policy makers in another federal agency, the National Science Foundation (NSF), actually planned to bring in foreign nationals to hold down wages in science and engineering, at least at the postgraduate degree level. In early 1998, Dr. Eric Weinstein, then a mathematician at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, uncovered internal NSF documents which expressed concern that science and engineering salaries were getting too high, and proposed as a solution to this ``problem'' bringing in a glut of foreign labor. It is amazing that a federal agency would actually plot to keep U.S. citizens' salaries down. Subsequent to the writing of these documents, the NSF pushed Congress to establish the current H-1B program, in much expanded form compared to the old H-1 program. "

The paper details the background on the Immigration act of 1990, and the impact in the following years on the scientific community. Short overview - they were swamped with foreign postdocs, who flooded businesses with cheap labor, and the colleges as well so that universities could use postdocs as cheap "gypsy instructors".

A neat blast from the past are these two quotes from the Wall Street Journal, no less, way back when:
"Two years ago this day, ... we wrote "If Washington still wants to 'do something' about immigration, we propose a five-word constitutional amendment: There shall be open borders" -- Wall Street Journal Editorial, Thursday July 3, 1986
"...As long as we don't train enough scientists, engineers or software designers ourselves, immigration is a saving grace. ... Come to think of it, with jobs available why have a quota at all? ... Our view is, borders should be open." -- Wall Street Journal Editorial, Thursday February 1, 1990

Lets all give a big round of thanks to the WSJ and Congress on this one.
:-(

123 posted on 11/13/2002 8:33:30 PM PST by dark_lord
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To: dark_lord
"Employers who favor aliens have an arsenal of legal means to reject all U.S. workers who apply."

And as you succinctly described, it is SOLELY due to the greed of those who are wealthier than the majority of the US population.

144 posted on 11/13/2002 9:43:37 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: dark_lord
I believe that racial strife, leftist ideology in our schools, the media programming aimed at our youth and other facets of our society are efforts to make sure US citizens do not excel to the optimal.  And I believe that much of this is carefully masterminded by different think tanks within our own government agencies.  This shouldn't be misconstrued to intimate that natural human nature doesn't play in at all.  I just happen to think that it plays in a lot less than we think.

Note that real wages and the goodies we must purchase to have a "normal lifestyle" today, are going in the opposite directions.  Today both adults need to work to support a home.  Why is that?  It's a question very few people ask.

We have flooded the labor market, shipped jobs overseas and undermined our workers every chance we had.  Like it or not, this is true.

Racial strife is instilled by the race baiters and the Democrats.  This serves the purpose of actually keeping the very people down, that the race baiters profess to want to help.  This keeps those folks less successful that they could be.  And less successful folks are easier to herd.

Many youth are able to counter the programming to become successful people.  They somehow cast off the best efforts of the left to brainwash them.  But the numbers that fail are sufficiently bumped up to create another class that can be easily manipulated.  Success has it's own problematic aspects.  If you become successful, you become accostomed to an elevated level of existance.  Too busy to interfere with the plans of the federal government, you will generally be content to participate in the 9 to 5 grind, never having enough time or energy to do much more than service your work, bill and recreation time needs.

It's all a neat little game that is much more complex and manipulated than most people will accept.  It sounds crazy.  I'm not convinced it is.

Look at the numbers of people who are too turned off by the system to become engaged and successful enough to combat it.  Look at the numbers of folks who are so successful that they are too busy to fight it.

The people on this forum have made the time.  Most of them are sufficiently well off to be able to not only access this site, but be able to spend the time here to become informed.  This is the single most terrifying factor of today's society to the manipulators.  A growing number of people are tuning in.

I realize this sounds Orwelian.  It think it needs to be tweaked to be sure.  But I do believe there is more truth in this synopsis than folks think.

I could polish this up and make it more plausible.  If you are willing, I think you can fill in those gaps.  If you're not willing, my filling them in wouldn't help.

LOL.  Thanks for the comments.

162 posted on 11/14/2002 2:01:43 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: dark_lord
Here is published paper titled How and Why Government, Universities, and Industry Create Domestic Labor Shortages of Scientists and High-Tech Workers.

Refering to this paper, Dr. Markoff says "Amazingly, policy makers in another federal agency, the National Science Foundation (NSF), actually planned to bring in foreign nationals to hold down wages in science and engineering, at least at the postgraduate degree level. In early 1998, Dr. Eric Weinstein, then a mathematician at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, uncovered internal NSF documents which expressed concern that science and engineering salaries were getting too high, and proposed as a solution to this ``problem'' bringing in a glut of foreign labor. It is amazing that a federal agency would actually plot to keep U.S. citizens' salaries down. Subsequent to the writing of these documents, the NSF pushed Congress to establish the current H-1B program, in much expanded form compared to the old H-1 program. "

Bump

175 posted on 11/14/2002 5:35:14 AM PST by A. Pole
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