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Accused snipers may be followers
Washington Times ^ | 11/13/02 | Jerry Seper and Steve Miller

Posted on 11/12/2002 10:34:01 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:58:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Federal authorities are investigating whether accused snipers John Allen Muhammad and John Lee Malvo had ties to a growing sect of militant American Muslims committed to waging holy war against the United States.

Law-enforcement authorities yesterday said investigators want to know whether the suspects

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; jamaatalfuqra; jihadinamerica; johnallenmuhammad; johnleemalvo; sniper
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To: Grampa Dave
I think that your map got cut off, and Commerce, Ga is not shown.

Hmmm... I'm seeing it, but I was having a little trouble posting the image.

Commerce would be about a half inch northeast of Atlanta on almost a straight line running up from Montgomery.




41 posted on 11/13/2002 9:26:35 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Now I have about half of the Red Star on my map.
42 posted on 11/13/2002 9:28:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Make that three sources, Sabertooth was the first to suggest this tie.
43 posted on 11/13/2002 9:31:04 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva; Sabertooth; Clovis_Skeptic; TexKat; FL_engineer; Shermy
I believe that Saber and I were basically together re the possible al Fuqra connection re these snipers. Clovis Skeptic also posted the first warning about their unit, Red House in Virginia.

I have been warning Freepers about al Fuqra since last November after Clovis Skeptic alerted us to the American franchise of al Fuqra in California.

Saber has posted the great leads and connections with their parent organization in Pakistan and then the connections here. Most of my early work and documentation has been on the American franchise Al Fuqra.

Saber has tied all this in with Jamaat al Fuqra, the organization that funded and started the American al Fuqra and which killed Danny Pearl. Pearl was killed to prevent him for documenting the dangers of Jamaat al Fuqra and their farm league franchise in America, al Fuqra.

Saber has taken this whole mess as a personal objective to tie all of this info together for all of us. He is doing a great job.

Tex Kat and FL Engineer are doing a great job re the time lines and other tie ins of the sniper duo.

Shermy has documented a ton of al Fuqra data up to this time period.

Saber's excellent reminder to me was that the best news source Free Republic has been all over this possible link. We were on it before the sniping happened, during the sniping and now after the sniping!
44 posted on 11/13/2002 9:43:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for the kudos, GD. Back atcha.

BTW, Daniel Pearl was actually murdered because he was looking int to the Jamaat al Fuqra connections to Richard Reid, the Shoe Bomber. Fuqra also recruited Johnnie Jihad, the American Taliban.



45 posted on 11/13/2002 10:05:23 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Besides those international connections, they did not want Pearl via the Wall Street Journal tying in their American Farm League, al Fuqra into this whole mess.

If that happened, their story would have been main line. Then a large part of America would know about it, not just a few Freepers who connected the dots. Jamatt al Fuqra and the American farm league team, al Fuqra would have been exposed re their reality. Political correctness would not have been able to protect the al Fuqra members in America anymore.

You are doing a great job in exposing the dots and making the connections where and when they are valid!
46 posted on 11/13/2002 10:14:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks again. Why hasn't Alfukar been banned?

Treasonous 5 columnists in our midst.

Better late than never.
47 posted on 11/13/2002 10:21:11 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: nanny
I believe it was last Friday that the FBI was enroute to Bellingham, Wa. to deliver papers to her regarding Malvo. I thought we would have heard something about that by now, but I have not heard anything.

Prior to that I read Ms. James was at Agape Shelter in Bellingham, Wa.

48 posted on 11/13/2002 10:24:15 AM PST by TexKat
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To: TexKat
{I believe it was last Friday that the FBI was enroute to Bellingham, Wa. to deliver papers to her regarding Malvo. I thought we would have heard something about that by now, but I have not heard anything. Prior to that I read Ms. James was at Agape Shelter in Bellingham, Wa.}

Thanks. I get most all my news here on FR. You could be right. I don't know how to direct you to the posting, except to give you the title. I don't know where they got the information. The title of the posting. "Updated SNIPER's TIMELINE for 2002"

49 posted on 11/13/2002 10:37:55 AM PST by nanny
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To: Sacajaweau
For Boy, 'Each Day Is a Turning Point': Sniper Victim Returns Home From Hospital .
50 posted on 11/13/2002 12:22:03 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Sabertooth
Looks like they overplayed their hand though. Muhammad didn't go t Fort Lewis and convert to Islam until late '85.

The 1985 conversion date is according to "relatives of his first wife," per an October 25 AP story. I'm not sure there's any firm way of proving it didn't happen earlier, short of his Islamic/NOI mentor stepping forward to confirm it...which I doubt will happen.

I had a feeling LE hadn't put the NOI angle to rest yet, considering that they included charges under the new VA anti-terrorism law. If Malvo keeps insisting that he pulled the trigger in the VA shootings, the anti-terrorism angle will become even more important, although I'm not too optimistic about the Feds being able to dig up anything much about al-Fuqra.

In a 9/28/01 detention hearing for Vincente Pierre of Red House, accused (and later convicted) of firearms charges, (and earlier parolled for his role in the Colorado worker's comp al-Fuqra scam), had an interesting statement:

There is no al-Fuqra organization. There are no legal papers with the name of any such organization. There are no publications named al-Fuqra. There is nothing owned under the name al-Fuqra, no non-tax exempt religious organizations named al-Fuqra. Why is this? Because "fuqra" is just a word, Arabic word, and it means what has been explained already. Is there an organization named al-Fuqra? No. This is a phantom, nonexistent organization which does not exist, again. It's just a figment of someone's imagination due to their ignorance of the Arabic language or perhaps due to their hate or prejudice of Al-Islam.

It looks like infiltration of this organization may be the only solution, and considering how the FBI has been hogtied and sensitivity-trained into ineffectiveness over the last decade, the chances of that happening anytime soon don't look very good.

51 posted on 11/13/2002 1:06:49 PM PST by browardchad
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To: Grampa Dave
They are only a year late, but it's good to see them on the case.
52 posted on 11/13/2002 1:34:46 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Sabertooth
As many as 3,000 al-Fuqra members are believed to live in the Muslim communes across the country, some of which have been identified by authorities as having shooting ranges.

I think some of the them should be used for target practice. :-)

53 posted on 11/13/2002 9:23:08 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Travis McGee
Apparently O'Reilly and Fox News are now aware of al Fuqra.

We know the left wing maggot infested mediots will never publish a story or talk about al Fuqra, the Jihad in America or run a national story on ABCNNBCBS.

So it is up to us and the conservative web sites, conservative talk radio and other conservate news centers to get the story of al Fuqra out to other Americans.
54 posted on 11/13/2002 10:47:02 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: kattracks
Anybody from the Red House area have a comment? Seems ironic that they are near Uncle Patrick Henry's old place. Seems like they want to give us both death and loss of our liberties.
55 posted on 11/13/2002 11:04:16 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: Grampa Dave; Sabertooth
This is very chilling information, if true--that Daniel Pearl was on the trail of Al Fuqra and his death was an effort to suppress the information of its tie to America. I wonder if you have alerted the Wall Street Journal to your claims. And also what proof you have seen?
56 posted on 11/13/2002 11:22:10 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: The Westerner; Miss Marple; Sabertooth
The left wing editorial section of the Wall Street Journal with Al Hunt as their leader know all about Jamatt al-Fuqra and why Danny Pearl was killed under orders of their leader Gilani. Don't hold your breath waiting for them to do so good investigative reporting and followup on the organization/individuals responsible for Danny Pearl's death.

Go to this link where the leader of Jamatt al Fuqra was arrested for the kidnapping and murder of Danny Pearl.(Link)

Pearl, 38, was working on a story about alleged shoe-bomber Richard Reid, who is being detained in the United States ahead of trial on charges he tried to blow up an airliner. In the Pakistan capital Islamabad, police said on Wednesday they had detained the leader of a radical Islamic group in connection with the kidnapping of Pearl, who went missing in the southern city of Karachi a week ago. Police said they arrested Mubarak Ali Gilani, leader of Jamaat al-Fuqra and considered him a prime suspect in the case.

Jamaat al-Fuqra and its leader the phoney shiek Mubarak Ali Gilani could not affort the story of their world wide terrorism and recruitment of future Islamakazis. Their farm team in America, could not afford to have this story come out! So Gilani ordered Pearl to be kidnapped and brutally murdered as a warning to any reporter not to investigate Jamaat al-Fuqra

The left wing leaders of the WSJ know more about Jamaat al-Fuqra, the American al-Fuqra and Gilani than any of us know. However, we will probably not see a story exposing these home grown Islamakazis and the world wide Jamaat Islamakazis coming out of the WSJ due to people like Al Hunt in the background of the WSJ.

Sabertooth can fill you in more on the international Jamatt al Fuqra. I have focused on their home grown Islamkazi recruitment organization al Fuqra in America.

57 posted on 11/13/2002 11:48:26 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
BTTT!!!
58 posted on 11/14/2002 12:50:45 PM PST by Travis McGee
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