[Joe Bonforte]

"resting his feet on a coffee table cluttered with unpaid bills, crusted cereal bowls, and bongwater-stained Frederic Bastiat, F.A. Hayek, and Ludwig von Mises pamphlets."

With a little sleight of hand, I've turned it into a LIBERTINES' apartment.

It would make just as much sense to say:

"resting his feet on a coffee table cluttered with unpaid bills, crusted cereal bowls, and bongwater-stained William F. Buckley, Edmund Burke, and Rush Limbaugh pamphlets."

With a little sleight of hand, I've turned it into a CONSERVATIVES' apartment.

Neither version makes a lick of sense. But that obviously doesn't stop someone who would rather bash libertarians, who agree with conservatives 80-90% of the time, than liberals, who agree with conservatives 10-20% of the time.

Go ahead, keep it up. Set back your own cause. Libertarians cost several Republicans their election last week. Keep on alienating them, in favor of "conservatives" who see nothing wrong with increasing government size and spending, and thereby driving even more of them away.

[Illbay]

Unfortunately, you guys have been to that well too often. Conservatives now completely discount your support. You wouldn't vote GOP if Bush promised to make Harry Browne Ambassador to the Vatican.

Get that? WE DON'T NEED OR WANT YOUR SUPPORT ANY MORE.

[Common Tator]

Libertarians cost several Republicans their election last week

They most certainly DO NOT cost anyone anything.

The prime message of all third parties is that there is no difference between the two major parties. That is their whole game. They say over and over their is not a dimes worth of difference between the Democrats and Republicans.

What studies have shown is that all third parties are the same. If the third party has a candidate they vote for the third party candidate. If the third party does not have a candidate a lot of them don't vote at all. And the remainder split their votes between the two parties. If the Libertarians don't have a candidate about half of them will teach the Repubicans a LESSON by voting for the Democrat and the remainder will vote for the Republican.

Splinter parties are of zero value to either party.

Look at the Greens. People would think that every Green would prefer (earth in the balance) Gore to Bush. But 2.8 Greens voted for Nader to teach Gore a lesson. But if Nader had not run 1.4 million Greens would have voted for Bush to teach Gore a lesson and the rest would have voted for Gore.

They would not have changed the outcome at all.

The Libertarians try to fool the Republicans all the time. But they fool no one in the party. They don't help and they don't hurt. The are completely a non factor in every race.

[Uncle Miltie]

"But that obviously doesn't stop someone who would rather bash libertarians, who agree with conservatives 80-90% of the time," but still cause the loss of several Senate seats per year to the tax and spend party.