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Priest, bishop clash in sex, theft scandals
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 11/12/2002 | George Archibald

Posted on 11/12/2002 6:42:27 AM PST by robowombat

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To: Desdemona
Arlington Diocese - the one without altar girls.
41 posted on 11/12/2002 9:50:37 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Siobhan
**BANSHEE ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!**

We are duly notified! LOL!
42 posted on 11/12/2002 9:51:14 AM PST by Salvation
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To: Desdemona
Diocese of Arlington.
43 posted on 11/12/2002 9:51:15 AM PST by Siobhan
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To: Salvation
Salvation, I agree. Besides sending him a letter of protest (is that considered a FReep?), what shall we do? I am quite willing to help out any way I can.
44 posted on 11/12/2002 9:53:49 AM PST by ltlflwr
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To: Siobhan
Do you think Bishop Loverde fired him because the other bishops wanted Gould punished for his coverage on EWTN of the last USCCB debacle in Dallas?

I believe he was fired long before his coverage of the USCCB conference. I could be wrong. Can anyone else confirm this?

45 posted on 11/12/2002 9:55:51 AM PST by ltlflwr
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To: Zviadist
I don't see why you should be attacked at all. I go to a Novus Ordo, teach Catechism there, it is a mess and mass is a confusing event. Blessed are the poor in spirit may refer to those who are faithful with no place to go. There should not be a war between those who are comfortable in the Novus Ordo, but seek a return to the mass described as acceptable by Father Fessio, English with Latin and a lot of reverence and a proper Eucharistic prayer, and those who prefer a Latin Mass. IMHO. I am sure we all are appalled by the same filfth. V's wife.
46 posted on 11/12/2002 9:57:12 AM PST by ventana
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To: nina0113; Siobhan; Salvation
Wait a minute. I'm confused.

Fr. Haley is removed for basically being a snoop (although, what he was investigating - he was right) and not following tradiotional proceedural channels.

The archbishop - who doesn't allow altar girls, but won't distribute Communion at the rail - takes care of the problems in his own way (did his job, in this case) and gets ticked because someone either tried to usurp his authority or ratted on some of his friends.

Ummm...who are freeping and over what? Fr. Haley sounds like a holy guy, but I wouldn't go to him for Confession.
47 posted on 11/12/2002 10:00:13 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: ventana
I have no beef with you. I am speaking of others here who attack regularly.
48 posted on 11/12/2002 10:00:43 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Desdemona
Fr. Haley sounds like a holy guy, but I wouldn't go to him for Confession.

You'd rather go to the homo in leather panties?

49 posted on 11/12/2002 10:01:28 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: ltlflwr
I found this site: http://www.rc.net/arlington/

Also this:

Diocese of Arlington
Most Reverend Paul S. Loverde
200 N. Glebe Road, Suite 704
Arlington, VA 22203

I did not dig deeper to find phone and fax numbers. Phone calls drive them nuts! And faxes put something in their hands (not as easy to discard as an email.)

50 posted on 11/12/2002 10:03:39 AM PST by Salvation
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To: Zviadist
You'd rather go to the homo in leather panties?

NO, as a matter of fact, I go to someone who is on the archdiocese Committee to keep the priesthood clean. At the Cathedral. If he was ever in town, I could go to the archbishop or his secretary.
51 posted on 11/12/2002 10:04:25 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona; Siobhan
BTTT!

Any new contact information, anyone?
52 posted on 11/12/2002 10:08:18 AM PST by Salvation
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To: Maximilian
Remember also that the Diocese of Arlington is routinely held up as an example of one of the most conservative and best run diocese in the US.

Good Lord, can this statement and the original story both be true?

53 posted on 11/12/2002 10:09:26 AM PST by iconoclast
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To: iconoclast
No. It had a very good rep under the late Bp. Keating, but things are apparently going down the river under the current bishop. Doesn't look good.
54 posted on 11/12/2002 10:10:28 AM PST by Campion
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To: Campion
**apparently going down the river under the current bishop. Doesn't look good.**

Where is Bishop Keating now?

55 posted on 11/12/2002 10:11:35 AM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation
Heaven, or perhaps one of the nicer neighborhoods in purgatory.
56 posted on 11/12/2002 10:15:07 AM PST by Campion
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To: LO_IQ; Polycarp; Siobhan
He is barred from revealing any evidence of priestly wrongdoing to law-enforcement authorities or the public under a canonical "penal precept" issued by the bishop in October 2001.

Out in the parts of the world not subject to the endemic corruption of Roman Catholicism, we call that Obstruction of Justice and Witness Tampering, and attach a felony sentence to those acts. Of course, it being a Roman bishop, he feels free to obstruct the civil justice system without fear of sanction, just as the most manipulative mafiosi would.

What else would you expect of such a Church, considering that the Diocese of Chicago paid an abuser $200,000.00 after it decided to defrock him (which is much more than they've ever offered a victim).

57 posted on 11/12/2002 10:16:46 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Desdemona
But he did go through the proper channel - he went to his bishop.
The first issue was the Verecchia scandal. Here's a link to it:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A53256-2002Aug23&notFound=true

It looks to me as if the bishop resents that Fr. Haley blew the whistle on his golden boy.
58 posted on 11/12/2002 10:19:32 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah ... blah ...

What he "feels" is of no consequence; he has the same liability in the civil courts that you or I do. If you could turn off that invective and bias production machine you call a mind, you might be able to figure that out.

59 posted on 11/12/2002 10:19:43 AM PST by Campion
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To: iconoclast
Remember also that the Diocese of Arlington is routinely held up as an example of one of the most conservative and best run diocese in the US.

Good Lord, can this statement and the original story both be true?

For confirmation, look what Cicero posted:

I do know that the diocese of Arlington enjoyed a sterling reputation for orthodoxy under its previous bishop. It was famous for its high number of priestly vocations, and famous for its orthodoxy. Therefore I would guess that Bishop Loverde is probably one of the good guys, unless I hear convincing information to the contrary.

60 posted on 11/12/2002 10:19:47 AM PST by Maximilian
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