An election scam (Thune - Johnson SD Senate Race)

freelancestar.com ^ | Monday, Nov. 11, 2002

[show me state]

Denise Red Horse, who died in a Sept. 3 car crash, somehow managed to apply for an absentee ballot on Sept. 21--in two different counties. Both applications were mailed from Democratic headquarters, where a party worker was found with a history filled with local names. Many of those listed in the book ended up registering to vote, which contributed to this statistical oddity: The number of people on the voting rolls in Dewey and Ziebach counties far exceeded the 2000 Census count of residents over the age of 18.

[RippleFire]

BUMP

[MrB]

I agree that absentee ballots should be done away with. Voting should only be done by those who care enough to be inconvenienced by going to the polls.
As for the military, how many of them wouldn't be able to make it to the base or PX to cast a vote there?
It should be fairly simple to set up a polling place on a military base.

[Tuxedo]

BTTT

[88keys]

from the article:

Larry Sabato calls absentee voting "the preferred choice of those who commit voter fraud." In an attempt to get more people to the polls, 29 states don't require voters to state any good reason to receive an absentee ballot..."

The reason for voting absentee is, I think, the real key...i.e.; military service; college student; elderly "shut-in"; work schedule; etc.

For example, my elderly mother-in-law no longer drives, so I called her to make sure my sister-in-law was able to take her to the polls; my sister-in-law had to work a 12-hour shift that day, but...they had both already voted absentee for good reasons that were easily verifiable...

(mom said she does miss actually going out to the voting place, and since she always votes the right way heHE, I made a date to take her myself for the next big election...!)

[GaConfed]

As for the military, how many of them wouldn't be able to make it to the base or PX to cast a vote there? It should be fairly simple to set up a polling place on a military base.

This may be workable for the presidential election, but what would you do about statewide and local elections of each serviceman.

[Route66]

"This is not a "scam." This is a criminal act and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Those found guilty in tampering with this election should be punished by a stiff prison sentence."

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You are so right. This whole subject just makes me crazy. It goes on in places all over the country and has just been passed off as what we can expect from the Democrats.
I say ENOUGH.
Until people start going to prison, this will not stop - and we will always not just have to win elections, but win them by such big margins we overcome their fraud, too.

[Irish Eyes]

No SHE could not have registered, but who did and used her name? hmmmm

[HEY4QDEMS]

The reason for voting absentee is, I think, the real key...i.e.; military service; college student; elderly "shut-in"; work schedule; etc.

I agree, I also think that no absentee ballots should be excepted when mailed from politcal party offices (they should be mailed from the requesters home address) and that anyone who has not filled out a census or regestered to vote in person should also not receive an absentee ballot.

I realize that there has been a wave of sentiment to make it easier to vote to increase participation in the election process, but this new lax system is brutally flawed and must be addressed.

[5by5]

I think this is one of the reasons the 'RATS worked so hard to demonize Ashcroft. He'll be point man on any effort to uncover voter fraud and anything he does will be characterized by the left-leaning media as partisan maneuvering.

Sure would be nice to unseat Johnson and make Dashole guilty by association though.

[Wait4Truth]

Just because the GOP is quiet at the moment about the Johnson/Thune race, I don't think we should assume that nothing is going on. The Bush team is known for moving quietly behind the scenes and there is an investigation going on. If there is something to find, it will be found. Let's be patient. This is not over.

[jonno]

..The Bush team is known for moving quietly behind the scenes..

-My observation as well - hopefully something will shake loose...

[MHT]

The fraud in SD should be targeted the same way Bond did in MO after the St. Louis debacle in 2000. There is obviously no one from the state to do it but Bond could take in on as a continuation of his 2000 mission. If enough fraud can be proven, and, remember that Daschle's first win was only by 138 votes "found" at the last minute, he might not run for re-election.

Looking at the situation in SD and the overwhelming Republican support in other offices, I wonder if these Democrat senators EVER really won office?

[floriduh voter]

Remember Attorney Ginsberg, who is the RNC counsel, hopefully, he's already on this because he was ready to come to Florida if we had voter fraud. I can't fathom that the RNC would let their guy Thune lose, even if he wanted to concede. Is Thune a fighter? Do you know?

If RNC's counsel has anything to say about it, they'll file something. At least now I know why Daschle keeps getting voted back in. Dead people voting multiple times. I bet the dems watch the obits every day looking for new voters. It appears so.

[floriduh voter]

Now that we have touch screen technology, why can't the military vote by touch screen, i.e. laptop pc? That would eliminate the post office handling or mishandling of ballots, the production of fake ballots and the challenge of military ballots.

Even though people want a paper trail, the paper trail is how the dems continue to cheat. They manufacture ballots and always say "count every vote". They don't care if there's a real person behind that vote, just count it because that's their mantra.

[floriduh voter]

If you have a ping list, please put me on it. I'm Sioux Falls born and SD raised. We've got Florida in fine shape for the moment and I am for the first time, able to follow SD politics without interruption.

[CPT Clay]

contest all absentee ballots, contest those especially from Dewey and Ziebach counties. More votes than persons over 18 on the U. S. census is an irregularity.

[e_engineer]

If any SD Freepers would like to run with this idea, I'll put up the first $100. If we can get the reward mentioned on Fox news, maybe we can get some takers.

[copycat]

If I were W., Election Reform would be near the top of my to-do list.

1. All votes must be cast at the proper polling place on the day of the election. No early voting, no absentee voting, no provisional ballots.
2. The voter must be properly registered with picture ID, and produce a signature, which would be compared to the original.
3. Voting would occur on a paper ballot, preferably optical scan, in which the voter must fill in a circle corresponding to the candidate of his choice. The voter is responsible for the proper completion of the ballot. The standard is whether the machine can read the vote.
4.All ballots after being scanned would be secured by a team consisting of at least one member of EVERY party who appears on the ballot. Chain of custody must assure no tampering with the ballots in any way.
5. Contests would consist only of repeat scanning of the ballots, on machines just calibrated for accuracy. Under no circumstances would subjective human judgements be allowed to determine votes.

[tamikamaria]

Wanna hear another reason the dead woman didn't get to vote? She was killed in a car accident, in which she ran into the town bartender. All 50 people in town know the bartender, including the county registrar - who works with his wife.

[copycat]

Forgot to add to my Election Reform,


6. six months before every election, the state would mail postcards to every registered voter, and any cards returned for bad addresses, or voters who have moved would be purged from the rolls.