Release the Videotapes!

Newsmax.com ^ | 09 Nov 2002 | Nutra Trulock

[TXnMA]

Release the Videotapes

Notra Trulock Saturday, Nov. 9, 2002

In 1995, the worst act of terrorism on American soil, prior to the 9/11 disaster, was committed in Oklahoma City. On April 19, terrorists blew up the Murrah Federal Building and killed 168 Americans and wounded scores more. Not long after the bombing, Timothy McVeigh was arrested about 60 miles east of Oklahoma City and a few days later Terry Nichols surrendered to police in Herrington, Kan. With those arrests, the Justice Department shut down any further investigation into who had committed this awful crime.

But as with the Kennedy assassination, many Americans remained deeply skeptical about the government's assurances that McVeigh and Nichols acted alone in this horrible crime. And for good reason, as it seems that the FBI ignored important investigative leads, failed to interview potentially significant witnesses, and destroyed the Murrah building before experts could examine the crime scene.

The involvement of a John Doe Number Two in the bombing has remained a simmering controversy. Skeptics ask why the FBI canceled an all-points-bulletin for a Middle Eastern male subject or subjects fleeing the scene issued in the immediate aftermath of the explosion. Numerous eyewitness accounts have identified Middle Eastern males in the company of McVeigh in the days and weeks before the bombing.

Dr. Frederic Whitehurst's allegations against the FBI crime lab sparked a Justice Department investigation that found the lab had provided "inaccurate pro-prosecution testimony in major cases including Oklahoma City." Retired Air Force General Benton K. Partin, an explosive expert, disputed the FBI's theory that the damage to the Murrah Building was caused by a single truck-bomb. His analyses were later endorsed by numerous physicists, physical chemists and experts in structural mechanics as well as a series of live tests conducted at Eglin Air Force Base. These are just some of the lingering questions about the 1995 bombing.

Beyond covering McVeigh's execution and the FBI foul-ups that delayed it, the mainstream media have devoted little effort to digging into any of these questions. Concerned citizens have had to go to Internet media outlets like World Net Daily and NewsMax or be on the lookout for the occasional investigative report in obscure outlets like the Los Angeles Weekly or the London Evening Standard.

In early September, the Wall Street Journal did one column on its editorial page about possible Iraqi involvement in Oklahoma City and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, but seemed to lose interest after that.

One columnist who has refused to let the story die is James Patterson, an editorial writer at the Indianapolis Star. Patterson was one of the first to report a potential crack in the wall of silence erected around the Oklahoma City bombing by the government and the elite media.

Twice in recent months, Patterson has reported that Chairman Dan Burton's House Government Reform Committee investigators have uncovered the possible whereabouts of videotapes and photographs of the Murrah Federal Building from the day of the bombing. The Final Report of the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee (OKBIC) noted the existence of such tapes, but the Justice Department has adamantly refused to release them, even in response to Freedom of Information Act requests.

Burton believes that the tapes and photographs may be held in the archives of Naval Intelligence at the Washington Navy Yard and he has issued a subpoena to the Secretary of the Navy to obtain them. The tapes are said to contain video of a John Doe Number Two getting out on the passenger side of the Ryder truck just prior to the explosion.

Former FBI Deputy Director Weldon Kennedy told the Philadelphia Inquirer that talk of withheld videotapes is "ludicrous and insulting." Kennedy says that agents nailed down "98 to 99 percent" of McVeigh and Nichols' movements in the months before the bombing and he is absolutely convinced they acted alone.

Cate McCauley, who worked on McVeigh's appeal, goes beyond Kennedy and charges that talk of Middle Eastern men helping McVeigh is "perhaps the worse case of misinformation and pandering" she has come across. The allegations, she says, are easily refutable and those who promote them are "standing on the graves of thousands of people."

A quick, easy way to resolve the controversy over John Doe Number 2 would be to simply release the videotapes and photographs and let the American public judge for itself. Release the tapes and bring this case to closure. The victims of the Oklahoma City bombing deserve nothing less.

Notra Trulock is Associate Editor of the AIM Report.

[Fred Mertz]

The involvement of a John Doe Number Two in the bombing has remained a simmering controversy. Skeptics ask why the FBI canceled an all-points-bulletin for a Middle Eastern male subject or subjects fleeing the scene issued in the immediate aftermath of the explosion.

Good to see that Notra Trulock is trying to help us get at the truth.

[MHGinTN]

Yes, and sinkEmperor was too spineless to go to war face to face, so he lobbed cruise missles and sat in OUR Oval office whirling in his degeneracy. This allowed terrorists to prepare further and Iraqi's to help train the 9/11 hijackers at Saddam's training camp 85 kliks southeast of Baghdad. I suspect that sometime after we take Baghdad, this administration will release all the data they have stored up for their 'just in case the socialist democrats want to commit political suicide by being too obstructionist' scenario. Digging in the files in Baghdad will give the cover needed to bring everything out in the open. [Is my tinfoil beenie on straight?... Actually, I'm serious.]

[MHGinTN]

... there was no basement beneath the main building. Ahh, there was an office building built atop a parking structure and the structure was slab on grade, thus there really was no basement. The cutter charges were palced on the columns exposed in the parking structure. Is that right?

[TXnMA]

Good to see that Notra Trulock is trying to help us get at the truth.

That's a fact! And ntrulock just popped a comment into the thread...

However, I just noticed that I misspelled "Notra" when I posted the article. :-( [I hate typing in those little boxes...] Oh, well, I guess those things happen when you get old and feeble-minded. (Just savoring my threescore and fifth "over the hill" B'day today...)

TXnMA (No Longer!!!) '-}

[TXnMA]

Ahh, there was an office building built atop a parking structure and the structure was slab on grade, thus there really was no basement. The cutter charges were palced on the columns exposed in the parking structure. Is that right?

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No, not right at all. The main (nine-story office) building was built "On Grade" (nothing but earth beneath it). Adjoining and abutting it on the south (between the MB and the Courthouse) was the "parking structure" which extended down several floors below ground.

When the office structure was imploded by CDI, they managed to force the damaged office building to fall to the north -- 'peeling' it away from the parking garage. This preserved the garage, (both above and below ground) and it is still there to this very day.

I repeat: There was no basement beneath the ground floor (street level) slab of the Murrah Office Building.

What I said in my #7 above was: "One of my conclusions was that ' IF supplemental high VOD 'cutting charges' (as suggested by Partin, et al) were used, they (three of them) were placed at or near the third floor level, at the junctures of the three main (exterior) columns and the 3' X 5' X 200' "main header/transfer beam" that spanned the width of the building at the third floor level."

Take a look at the following graphic (which I just modified and put up on the web for this post):

The truck was parked at the curb (note where the crater is marked) in front of a porch or portico formed by recessing the second floor several feet. Running all the way across the front of the building at the 3rd floor level (and supporting the front of the upper 7 floors) was the "3' X 5' X 200' main header/transfer beam" mentioned above (and shown in white on the graphic).

At each of the three places marked in red, the concrete of that beam (on the outside of the building) was missing (gone, gonzo, pulverized) over a distance of nearly two feet. That 3' X 5' beam was sliced cleanly in two -- in three places. The concrete was completely gone -- nothing was left but the steel rebar.

And the sections of the three main (exterior) columns shown in red were also pulverized. Again, The concrete was completely gone -- nothing was left but the steel rebar.

Now re-read my "One of my conclusions was ..." above, and see if it doesn't make more sense to you.

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BTW. I wouldn't have gone to this much trouble, this late at night -- but for the fact that the persistent "bombs in the basement" myth really bugs me!

Read the Report -- it is loaded with explanatory graphics like this one...

TXnMA (No Longer)

[CyberAnt]

I have said all along that this covering-up stuff began with the killing of JFK.

I just find it interesting that whenever this kind of stuff happens on the dems watch, they sweep it under the rug - why?? Either they cannot handle it, or they are just too timid to try.

When this stuff happens on the repubs watch, we go and take care of it. If you check out history, you'll find out I'm right.

The only time the dems ever did the right thing was when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

[chnsmok]

Mega bump.

[sultan88]

Bump and bookmarked!

[Landru]

Over at TOS, OKCS claims there's a security tape showing a second person sitting in that Ryder truck.
Not enough clarity to positively ID anyone; but, enough to see there was in fact other people involved.

There's always a motive to any cover-up; &, this is no exception.
But people (like me) have no choice except to watch this play-out through the work of others.

...& patiently watch as fate takes its course, right?

[SSN558]

"There must have been at least three explosive devices strapped to the pillars in the basement."

The most common reason reason that the government conceals information from the public next to national security, is government offical malfeasance. Here are a couple facts and conspiracy theories to ponder.

Various engineering organizations have been studying the federal building colapse since 1995. None have issued a definitive conclusion as to why the building failed.

When these well funded studies don't produce results, it is usually because they are unable to produce the desired "PC" outcome, without violating some indisputable law of physics.

What if the building did not meet the specifications because of some contractor using bad rebar or concrete ?

What if the studies have revealed that an ANFO bomb placed at the proper "mach finger" height and distance has the capability to take down all the similiary built federal buildings.

What if the occupants of the building exceeded the design load by putting to much weight in the wrong place, turning the structure into a house of cards ?

[thinden]

thanx for putting this thread together, guys.

it's one you won't want to miss!

[MHGinTN]

Kudos! Thank you for the cogent and well illustrated explanation. Freepers Rule! Time to get to the real facts and those facts out to the American people. Mercy! This is so complicated what with the disinformation rife in the halls of 'authority'. Again, thank you.

[waterstraat]

I seem to forget..... has the US Government officially admitted that the Tonkin Gulf incident was bogus yet?

The Johnson White HOuse tapes have been released(against Johnsons wishes), and can be read in 2 books. The Tonkin Gulf incident was bogus. America was secretly invading and bombing and killing in Vietnam BEFORE the Tonkin Gulf incident, Vietnam WAS provoked by Johnson, and Johnson kept it from the american people.

[TigersEye]

BTTT

[TXnMA]

This is so complicated what with the disinformation rife in the halls of 'authority'. Again, thank you.

Disinformation is bad enough... But what do you call it when the crater is so small they cover it with eight sheets of plywood (a 16-foot square) -- and then testify in court that the crater is thirty-two (32) feet in diameter?

You're quite welcome! And I hope I didn't offend you in the way I corrected your (all-too-common) misperception about "bombs in the basement"...

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

[MHGinTN]

Absolutely not offended, just grateful! I personally believe the Iraqi republican guard was involved and clinton buried the truth to avoid having to do something about it!

[WhiteGuy]

Reichstag Fire Bump

[norton]

Bak to the original:
has the US Government OFFICIALLY admitted...?"

Once the government lies to the people, no future administration will admit to the lie.

"...wouldn't be right..."

[norton]

PS:

I have no complaints about what "we" were doing in Vietnam or to "the Vietnamese people" prior or subsequent to the Tonkin Gulf Incident.

I only care that the government lies to the populace and will never recant, regardless who is nominally in charge at the time.

[rubbertramp]

Hi thinden,

OKC was the first time that they used scalar weapons...Remember there were two seismic events and the witnesses reported (then retracted) a sound like buzzing bees (electromagnetism).

It occurred shortly after the Aum Shinri event, and is related.

As that wise sage, NDCorup/Rdavis84, said "we are all lab rats to the NWO."

PS The ATF guys had just come back from the desert testing something called "Dipole Might"...put that into a search engine and meditate.