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The Christian Testimony of Condoleezza Rice
The Layman, October 2002, via Rice2008.com ^ | October 2002 | Condoleezza Rice, Ph.D

Posted on 11/08/2002 1:13:57 PM PST by B-Chan

THE CHRISTIAN TESTIMONY OF CONDOLEEZZA RICE

"I started to think of myself as that elder son who had never doubted the existence of the Heavenly Father but wasn't really walking in faith in an active way any more."

Miss Condoleezza Rice (47) is the American National Security Advisor. She has reached the highest political office for an African-American woman to have attained. Her father was a Presbyterian minister and she was trained as a girl to be a concert pianist and a competitive ice skater. During an August 4 Sunday school class at the National Presbyterian Church, Washington, she explained something of her own faith in God. Here are some excerpts:

I was a preacher's kid, so Sundays were church, no doubt about that. The church was the center of our lives. In segregated black Birmingham of the late l950s and early 1960s, the church was not just a place of worship. It was the place where families gathered; it was the social center of the community, too.

Although I never doubted the existence of God, I think like all people I've had some ups and downs in my faith. When I first moved to California in 1981 to join the faculty at Stanford, there were a lot of years when I was not attending church regularly. I was traveling a lot. I was a specialist in international politics, so I was always traveling abroad. I was always in another time zone.

One Sunday I was in the Lucky's Supermarket not very far from my house I will never forget - among the spices an African-American man walked up to me and said he was buying some things for his church picnic.

And he said, "Do you play the piano by any chance?"

I said, "Yes." They said they were looking for someone to play the piano at church. It was a little African-American church right in the center of Palo Alto. A Baptist church. So I started playing for that church. That got me regularly back into churchgoing. I don't play gospel very well - I play Brahms - and you know how black ministers will start a song and the musicians will pick it up? I had no idea what I was doing and so I called my mother, who had played for Baptist churches.

"Mother," I said, "they just start. How am I supposed to do this?" She said, "Honey, play in C and they'll come back to you." And that's true. If you play in C, people will come back. I tell that story because I thought to myself "My goodness, God has a long reach." I mean, in the Lucky's Supermarket on a Sunday morning.

I played for about six months for them and then I decided to go and find the Presbyterian Church again. I'm a devoted Presbyterian. I really like the governance structure of the church. I care about the Presbyterian Church. On a Sunday morning, I went to Menlo Park Presbyterian Church [in Palo Alto]. The minister that Sunday morning gave a sermon I will never quite forget. It was about the Prodigal Son from the point of view of the elder son.

It set the elder son up not as somebody who had done all the right things but as somebody who had become so self-satisfied'; a parable about self-satisfaction, and contentment and complacency in faith, [and] that people who didn't somehow expect themselves to need to be born again can be so complacent.

I started to think of myself as that elder son who had never doubted the existence of the Heavenly Father but wasn't really walking in faith in an active way any more.

I started to become more active with the church to go to Bible study and to have a more active prayer life. It was a very important turning point in my life.

My father was an enormous influence in my spiritual life. He was a theologian, a doctor of divinity. He was someone who let you argue about things. He didn't say, "Just accept it." And when I had questions, which we all do, he encouraged that.

He went to great lengths to explain about the man we've come to know as Doubting Thomas; he thought that was an incident in the life of Christ about the fact it was OK to question. And that Christ knew that Thomas needed to feel his wounds; feel the wounds in His side and feel the wounds in His hands. That it was what Thomas needed - he needed that physical contact. And then, of course, Christ said when you can accept this on faith, it will be even better.

I [liked] the fact that my father didn't brush aside my questions about faith. He allowed me as someone who lives in my mind to also live in my faith.

In this job, when we faced a horrible crisis like September 11, you go back in your mind and think, "Is there anything I could have done? Might I have seen this coming? Was there some way?"

When you go through something like that, you have to turn to faith because you can rationalize it, you can make an intellectual answer about it but you can't fully accept it until you can feel it here (taps chest). That time wasn't a failure, but it was a period of crisis when faith was really important for me.

I try always not to think that I am Elijah, that I have somehow been particularly called like a prophet. That's a dangerous thing. In a sense, we've all been called to whatever it is we are doing. But if you try to wear the imprimatur of God - I've seen that happen to leaders who begin too much to believe in that - then there are a couple of very good antidotes to that. I try to say when I pray, "Help me to walk in Your way, not my own." To try to walk in a way that is actually fulfilling a plan, and recognize you are a cog in a larger universe.

I think people who believe in the Creator can never take themselves too seriously. I feel that faith allows me to have a kind of optimism about the future. You look around you and you see an awful lot of pain, suffering and things that are going wrong. It could be oppressive. But when I look at my own story or many others that I have seen, I think, "How could it possibly be that it has turned out this way?" Then my only answer is it's God's plan. And that makes me very optimistic that this is all working out in a proper way. So we must all stay close to God and pray and follow in His footsteps.

I really do believe that God will never let his children fall too far. There is an old gospel hymn, "He knows how much you can bear." I really do believe that. I greatly appreciate, and so does the president, the prayers of the American people. You feel them. You know that they are there. If you just keep praying for us, it is so important to all of us.

In many ways, it's a wonderful White House to be in because there are a lot of people who are of faith, starting with the president. When you are in a community of the faithful, it makes a very big difference not only in how people treat each other but in how they treat the task at hand.

Among American leadership, there are an awful lot of people who travel in faith. It's a remarkable thing and I think it probably sets us apart from most developed countries where it is not something that is appreciated quite as much in most of the world.

I've watched over the last year and a half how people want to have human dignity worldwide. You hear of Asian values or Middle Eastern values and how that means people can't really take to democracy or they'll never have democracy because they have no history of it, and so forth. We forget that when people are given a choice between freedom and tyranny, they will choose freedom. I remember all the stories before the liberation of Afghanistan that that nation wouldn't "get it," that they were all warlords and it would just be chaos. Then we got pictures of people dancing on the streets of Kabul just because they now could listen to music or send their girls to school.

The Layman, October 2002


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christians; condoleezzarice; elections2004; gop; republicanparty; testimony
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To: kathleenlisson
White, black, it's all the same to me as long as the woman in question is conservative, intelligent, and Catholic. For what office are you running?
41 posted on 11/08/2002 4:10:09 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: B-Chan
Aah, I am just support staff. Loyal volunteer, envelope stuffer, lit dropper, phone caller, precinct captain. - Kathleen
42 posted on 11/08/2002 4:15:10 PM PST by kathleenlisson
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To: sauropod
She is PCUSA. I am Reformed Presbyterian and we are vehemently pro-life. The PCUSA is not that way. Rice is a good lady, regardless of her somewhat pro-choice leaning on this.....she is not a major pro-abort.
43 posted on 11/08/2002 4:19:22 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: txzman
This seems more of a witness of how faith has changed her life than a true "testimony" per se. That would account for the difference.
44 posted on 11/08/2002 4:20:57 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: newgeezer
This so-called testimony is not really such. A testimony describes how one came to faith. This is more about how her faith influences her life. I am not worried in the slightest about her not saying "Jesus" every 2 sentences. She has a unified view of God.
45 posted on 11/08/2002 4:22:54 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: smokinleroy
Yet again, the theme of the essay is not even truly a testimony. I do not know why the Layman chose to give this that title.
46 posted on 11/08/2002 4:24:38 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: B-Chan; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; Uncle Bill; shaggy eel; Crazymonarch; Alouette; Yehuda; ...
Ask yourself...
47 posted on 11/08/2002 5:00:39 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: votelife
She said ..."I really do believe that God will never let his children fall too far. There is an old gospel hymn, "He knows how much you can bear." I really do believe that. I greatly appreciate, and so does the president, the prayers of the American people. You feel them. You know that they are there. If you just keep praying for us, it is so important to all of us."

48 posted on 11/08/2002 6:02:33 PM PST by victim soul
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To: 2sheep
Aw, please, not the Trilateral thing... that's so '70s...
49 posted on 11/08/2002 6:03:03 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: tiki
No.
50 posted on 11/08/2002 6:04:54 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: rwfromkansas
She is PCUSA. I am Reformed Presbyterian and we are vehemently pro-life. The PCUSA is not that way.

Thanks for the education. I sometimes lose track of which denomination is which!

51 posted on 11/08/2002 6:09:25 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: B-Chan
If not Condi, who? If not 2008, when?
52 posted on 11/08/2002 6:13:04 PM PST by dano1
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To: dano1
Jeb or Owens would be good for '08
53 posted on 11/08/2002 6:14:33 PM PST by votelife
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To: B-Chan
By the way: most Baptists do not consider their denomination to be Protestant.

Although I agree with your observations on mainstream Protestants' social gospel, as a Southern Baptist we *do* consider ourselves Protestant, just not mainstream.

54 posted on 11/08/2002 6:28:29 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: B-Chan
In fact, most of the Baptist sources I've read claim that "Jesus was a Baptist" as well as all of the Apostles and saints of the early Church!

Baptists don't have saints.

I haven't studied it, but I thought the Baptists claimed to go back to John the Baptist. Weren't there seven churches "organized" by the followers of Christ during His lifetime?

I also think there are many different denominations that are called "Baptists." Missionary Baptists are quite different from Southern Baptists. I thought "Baptist" referred to those who believe in immersion baptism.

55 posted on 11/08/2002 6:33:34 PM PST by lonestar
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To: lady lawyer
{"....A black woman with very high standards of behavior and a strong work ethic, who doesn't see race, just character...."}

My in-laws are Italian. I wonder how Italian-American freepers would react, if I described one of my female in-laws as "an Italian woman with very high standards of behavior and a strong work ethic, who doesn't see ethnicity, just character"?

I would be implying that high standards of behavior and a work ethic are somewhat unusual among Italians - why else would I praise my Italian in-law for having those virtues? And I would also be implying that the general trend among Italians is to see ethnicity rather than character - and thankfully, my Italian in-law is an exception to that cultural trend.

The vast majority of blacks in this country (75 percent) are middle-class. That fact does not get much attention in the media. Condy Rice wouldn't look out of place in the black community, which is mostly middle-class and hardworking.

But of course, Condy Rice is also a person of very high accomplishment, having attained greater personal success than the overwhelming majority of people of any race. For starters, she has a PhD degree. Less than 1 percent of all American adults, have PhDs. She has also published books, been the President of Stanford University, and has sat on the boards of large corporations.
56 posted on 11/08/2002 6:45:10 PM PST by jstone78
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To: B-Chan
B-Chan...so strongly deluded.

2 Th 2:11

Globalism means submission...in a pincer grip with Islam...they fooled you.

57 posted on 11/08/2002 6:55:35 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
As a card-carrying member of the International Jew-Jesuit-Stonecutter-Reptilian conspiracy myself, I consider my role to be more "deluder" than "deluded". You really bought into our story about the Trilateralists, for example. Please! That bunch of effete Ivy League snobs couldn't overthrow a preschool tea party!

FNORD

Now your 666° Gray Masons -- THEY know how to rule a world. You should seen the job they did on Mesopotamia back in 5758 B.C.! Man, those Nephilim cats were so bad God flooded the world to shut THEM down! Now THAT'S an evil international conspiracy !

My advice: drink more tap water, avoid colloidial silver and chondroitin at all costs, sell Reynolds Aluminum short, and relax. And if you notice a black limousine with diplomatic plates parked across the street from your residence for the next few weeks -- it ain't us, honest!

Sincerely,
B-chan
(aka Moishe Van Xavier, Aquarius Group 23)

PS - Ve know vhere you liff!
58 posted on 11/08/2002 7:09:19 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: lonestar
Baptists don't have saints.

Tell it to St. Paul!

"To all God's beloved in Rome, who are called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. " - [Rom. 1:7 RSV]

Yours in Christian fraternity,
B-chan

59 posted on 11/08/2002 7:17:30 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: All
It set the elder son up not as somebody who had done all the right things but as somebody who had become so self-satisfied'; a parable about self-satisfaction, and contentment and complacency in faith, [and] that people who didn't somehow expect themselves to need to be born again can be so complacent.

To all those afraid she might be a "Deist" because she doesn't mention the name of Jesus, most "Deist"s don't mention the need to be "born again" either.

60 posted on 11/08/2002 7:20:41 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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