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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I say our laws are better based on logic and the Constitution, not a court decree or idols that are called principals or morals

Logic and the Constitution... yes. Certainly not logic alone, of course. When I say "principles", I'm referring to those outlined in the Constitution.

But isn't it nice, that as an atheist who sees abortion as ritual murder, I can debate the topic within the Republican party and actually have a voice on the issue?

So... I ask this question on every forum, and I've never received a straight answer from anyone, yet: At what point should abortion be "illegal"? From the point of conception? You appear to be very pro-life, and I'm wondering what your position is.

364 posted on 11/13/2002 2:36:55 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
At what point should abortion be "illegal"?

IMO, this is the most difficult issue in the debate since we all agree that abortion is immoral at some point and society should at least sanction the abortionists. I believe there should penalties for clear late term cases with fines for the abortionists.

From the descriptions in my post #300, I would draw the line somewhere after thirty hours and before week 6. I don't think there should be penalties even at week 6 because it can easily represent a lack of judgement or education by the mother rather than malice. Also I don't the law should be deciding the difference between an abortion and a miscarriage.

Why fines and not murder charges? The best answer I can give is I am pro-choice. There is a choice to be made by the mother that involved an increasingly human and protectable life, but that choice is the mother's, right or wrong. I can't sympathize with a mother who has had repeated late term abortions, she should be in jail. But I entirely sympathize with a mother who has repeated used "morning after" pills, I don't see anything wrong with that at all. The difference is my empathy with the victims.

366 posted on 11/13/2002 3:36:24 AM PST by palmer
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To: Tired of Taxes
So... I ask this question on every forum, and I've never received a straight answer from anyone, yet: At what point should abortion be "illegal"? From the point of conception? You appear to be very pro-life, and I'm wondering what your position is.

I put the question to you in reverse. At what point would you allow an abortion? If you're not certain when human life begins, how can you justify an action that might result in murdering a child. I think that if you're in favor of an action that end's human life, the obligation is upon you to be 100% sure it's not murder. If you're not 100% certain, you should err on the side of preserving life. Anything less is reckless and callous disregard for a child's life.

369 posted on 11/13/2002 4:34:45 AM PST by Godel
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To: Tired of Taxes
You appear to be very pro-life, and I'm wondering what your position is.

See #396... I welcome a libertarian perspective - - I am advancing a libertarian resolution...

398 posted on 11/13/2002 9:47:12 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood
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