[demosthenes the elder]

"Did you check the Preamble? No, didn't think so. Would it be relevent? Yes, because it sets forth the basic principles of the constitution." - Nephi

Before you spout off, you really SHOULD get your facts straight:

PREAMBLE
We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

So, no God mentioned HERE.

I believe you refer to the Unanimous Declaration of Independent States, also known as the Declaration of Independence. That lovely piece of poetry was published in 1776, in case you forgot, and predates the Constitution by over a decade.

Do I need to add that your factually incorrect and easily imploded assertion makes you look foolish? That it, indeed, punctures your gravitas and makes it difficult to take any other of your comments seriously?
If you wish to succeed in debate, you must have a better grasp on your facts.

[jwalsh07]

How about here?

Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the independence of the United States of America the twelfth. In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names, G. Washington-Presidt. and deputy from Virginia New Hampshire: John Langdon, Nicholas Gilman Massachusetts: Nathaniel Gorham, Rufus King Connecticut: Wm: Saml. Johnson, Roger Sherman New York: Alexander Hamilton New Jersey: Wil: Livingston, David Brearly, Wm. Paterson, Jona: Dayton Pennsylvania: B. Franklin, Thomas Mifflin, Robt. Morris, Geo. Clymer, Thos. FitzSimons, Jared Ingersoll, James Wilson, Gouv Morris Delaware: Geo: Read, Gunning Bedford jun, John Dickinson, Richard Bassett, Jaco: Broom Maryland: James McHenry, Dan of St Thos. Jenifer, Danl Carroll Virginia: John Blair--, James Madison Jr. North Carolina: Wm. Blount, Richd. Dobbs Spaight, Hu Williamson South Carolina: J. Rutledge, Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, Charles Pinckney, Pierce Butler Georgia: William Few, Abr Baldwin

[Nephi]

You are right - I was wrong. I mistakenly referred to the Preamble when I meant the Declaration.

I think you knew what I meant, though. Now that I've admitted my mistake, are you going to continue to argue that the Founding Fathers did not draw upon the principles laid out in the Declaration when composing the constitution?