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Why Doug Forrester, R-NJ, LOST and LOST Badly
11.07.02
| Rick Shaftan
Posted on 11/07/2002 4:19:30 PM PST by Coleus
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posted on
11/07/2002 9:47:55 PM PST
by
Coleus
To: Clemenza
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will never win in a state dominated by overeducated elitist upper class liberal snobs, ex-Manhattanites, union goons, ghetto blacks and immigrants. I agree, and no one's mentioned crooked businesses, Atlantic City for example, machine dominated cities like Newark, Trenton and Camden, and a major portion of the media.
Curious: most of the newspapers endorsed the Lout. I heard talk that the Times of Trenton had planned to endorse Forrester. Their endorsement of Lout came as a shock. I heard that they changed their endorsement after meeting the candidates; they were so impressed with Lout, they said.
No, I don't buy it either. I keep turning it over in my mind:
Now, I know that the Times is part of a conglomerate owned by Newhouse.The Star-Ledger is part of that conglomerate too.
I wonder...
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posted on
11/07/2002 9:48:05 PM PST
by
tsomer
To: Coleus
I totally disagree with all of that pundit fodder.
Here's the real reason Forrester lost: New Jersey voters are stupid! Brain dead! Morons! Corrupt! Unionized idiots! Paid off, selfish jerks! Slavic hold overs!
But I'd hate to sound extreme! (not)
To: Coleus
Forrester should have run ads right after Louse was picked by McGreevey stating that Lousenberg was too "extreme" for New Jersey. The word "extremist" or "risky" tend to work well with the braindead suburban women who live in North Jersey.
Every picture I see of Lautenberg lately makes him seem like the bastard lovechild of Leslie Nielsen and Frankenstein.
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posted on
11/07/2002 9:57:30 PM PST
by
Clemenza
To: YankeeReb
It's a matter of who runs the organization. You gotta get the right guys running in the primaries and keep voting conservatives and not RINOs.
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posted on
11/07/2002 10:05:41 PM PST
by
WOSG
Comment #66 Removed by Moderator
To: Coleus
To: the_doc
Manifestly, the NJ Republican Party should not nominate guys like Forrester in the future.You're right, they shouldn't. But they will, because too many of the more influential NJ Republicans are apolitical Wall Streeters who only vote Republican in anticipation of the tax benefits and who are otherwise preoccupied with re-creating the rock star lifestyle for themselves.
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posted on
11/08/2002 4:57:22 AM PST
by
Mmmike
To: Coleus
I think Forrester, while not slick and sexy in the modern sense, was an excellent candidate and in the end I was proud of him. In some ways, his candidacy was a success. Had he not stood up for decency in NJ, we might have Sen. Torricelli today.
Ultimately, there was little Doug Forrester could do about the switcharoo that played out in the courts. Hopefully we haven't heard the last of Doug Forrester. He was a total unknown, and even among NJ conservatives did not at the outset generate the kind of enthusiasm Schundler generated. I was definitely impressed with the way Forrester conducted himself.
We've got work to do here in NJ. No question. The NJ GOP needs to first of all learn to work together as a team and decide what they stand for. We need a msg crafted for the particularities of NJ, so that we can win, and slowly but surely move this state to the right. MHO.
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posted on
11/08/2002 4:58:09 AM PST
by
Huck
To: Coleus
They do now, Roukema retired and Conservative Scott Garrett won the 5th-Congressional race. Yep. He's my congressman, I'm happy to say.
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posted on
11/08/2002 4:59:21 AM PST
by
Huck
To: Coleus
While Republicans around the country were making the case for GOP Senate control by attacking liberal judges, Doug Forrester actually said he would vote against conservative judges supported by President Bush Then the party is better off without him. As far as I'm concerned, getting conservative judges confirmed is the MOST important duty of the Republicans between now and the next election.
To: Mmmike
Thanks for that insight.
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posted on
11/08/2002 6:40:59 AM PST
by
the_doc
To: Lancey Howard
I now wonder if maybe New Jersey is a decent place after all and it is the New Jersey Republican Party that is the pack of scumbag little pissants... Now you're catching on. Look at what happened last year. The grassroots Republican voters chose Schundler for their gubernatorial nominee. The NJ Repub Party establishment then proceeded to work against the Republican candidate. Conservatives in NJ should dump the NJ RINO party and build up a NJ Conservative party. I'm tired of getting dumped on by the NJ RINO party.
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posted on
11/08/2002 8:27:37 AM PST
by
ELS
To: Fledermaus
...Here's the real reason Forrester lost: New Jersey voters are stupid! Brain dead! Morons! Corrupt! Unionized idiots! Paid off, selfish jerks!...I think you could apply that comment to Californians too! And add "selfish" and "immoral" to that rant on the abortion issue.
To: AmericanVictory
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posted on
11/08/2002 8:38:57 AM PST
by
ELS
To: exit82; Antoninus
Bret Schundler got 914,713 votes in Nov. 2001 And that was with the NJ Repub party working against him.
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posted on
11/08/2002 8:40:32 AM PST
by
ELS
To: Huck
As Bob Grant said, "He was a gentleman and no match for that Lause." He was just too nice. I never heard him say left-wing liberal, he seemed afraid to attack the old man.
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posted on
11/08/2002 9:16:18 AM PST
by
Coleus
To: YankeeReb
RINO Marge Retired, Scott Garrett a pro life, pro 2nd amendment conservative won with around 63% of the vote in an open seat the rats poured money into against a pro abortion rat female.
Whoever ranhis campaign did a terrific job.
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posted on
11/08/2002 10:03:50 AM PST
by
Leto
To: Coleus
Lautenberg is one creepy dude.
To: ELS
Thanks to you and Congressman Billy Bob. I actually tried a similar case involving Ted Kennedy's 1982 primary election, in which the law was violated clearly and the Courts went to astonishing lengths in collusion with the famed Kennedy damage control apparatus to make sure that the law was not applied.
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