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To: yooper
Okay, here's mine. I'm sure others can add lots more than I could remember:

The 'War On Terror':

1. Sending three Democratic US Senators to Iraq to kiss Saddam's ass. Bad idea, especially a month before the election. It's un-American, and cost the Democrats plenty.

2. America's memory of 3000+ people killed by terrorists on worldwide TV is still fresh in their minds. When we retaliate against their leaders with missile-launching Predator drones, it's a bad idea to insist that they should have had defense lawyers and a jury of their peers. Sorry Liberals, but out there in the 'War On Terror' due process is a laser-guided missile.

3. Hundreds of thousands of US troops weren't killed in Afghanistan fighting the 'deadly and undefeated Mujahedin' who supposedly were the worlds fiercest warriors that lived in caves and ate dirt for supper. In fact, they got eaten alive by flying robot bombs and 40-year old US B-52s. The Green Berets even conquered them in a cavalry charge, which is the Mujaheddin's own game. Utter humiliation for the Taliban.

4. Hundreds of thousands of Afghani civilians weren't killed by US bombing. In fact, very few collateral deaths were suffered. The truth is that now girls can smile openly and go to school while the savages that once ruled over them are dodging US-made robot bombs.

In both cases 3 & 4, projecting doom and gloom about the outcome before the results were known was a bad idea. It shows Liberals have neither faith in America nor providence, and are completely full of B.S.

5. Instructing former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle to obstruct the wildly-popular president (77% approval as of November 6th, 2002) at every turn in the War On Terror: Bad idea.

6. America is not Germany, Canada, France, Holland, or any of the other countries where sissies rule the day (Apologies to our Canuck pals). America is for Americans, and we don't pause a moment to consider what a sad childhood any Muslim terrorist may have had. We are only interested in killing them or capturing them if they surrender fast enough when a TV camera is around. Sending Liberals to appear on TV as an advocate for the defense was a bad idea.

The War at Home:

7. Messing with the National Rifle Association. Notice how 14 of the (Sarah) Brady Campaign's 'Dangerous Dozen' all won re-election? The amount of anti-gun Democrat Senators and Congressmen that have gone down to the NRA's election year efforts since 1990 is close to one hundred. Running against the NRA is always a bad idea.

8. Proposing to raise taxes in both a sour economy AND an election year? You mean to tell us that your whole economic plan was 'Tax The Unemployed'? Bad idea.

Poor Taste:

9. A funeral for a Democratic US Senator that died with his family in a tragic plane crash is not an occasion to invite 10,000 U of Minn college students and ply them with free beer. It's not a place for Bill Clinton to sign the thighs of college coeds with a felt-tip pen, to blow horns, drop confetti, or release balloons. It's not a campaign stop. It should look like a memorial service. When eight people die, it's not the time to play Fleetwood Mac's 'Don't Stop Thinkin' About Tomorrow'. Americans don't like it, and were shocked to consider that the Liberals would have acted the same way even if Paul Wellstone's body would have been in the same room. By contrast, Norm Coleman's acceptance speech looked more like a fitting memorial to Paul Wellstone. Admit it, you Liberals aren't from this world, are you? Wellstone's 'memorial service', covered by the network TV cameras, was a very bad idea.

10. 'Building The Bridge To The Twenty-First Century' should not include washed-up old has-beens like Walter Mondale who's been wearing sweaters that smell like mothballs for twenty years. Mondale is the man that tried with all his might to kill the NASA Apollo program in the mid-1960s after three brave men died in an accident. With pussies like him in charge, America would never have gone to the Moon. That's the man Democrats had in mind for leading America into the 21st Century? Fitting and expected coming from Liberals, but a very bad idea.

11. On the subject of failed politicians, it's time to tell the Democrats that Bill Clinton is the kiss of death. Every candidate he's flown in to campaign for since the year 2000 loses in a landslide. Face it Dems, the Clinton Era is over. Most Americans think 'Clinton' and want to barf. Don't believe me? Look at the scoreboard. Having Clinton campaign for you is a bad idea.

12. Attack campaigning is a loser idea, especially when your candidate is dirtier than their opponent to begin with. There's a special place in Hell for those who accuse their enemies of their own worst crimes. Attack campaigning is a bad idea.

The Future:

13. Turning further politically Left is a recipe for disaster. Ignoring my kind advice is a bad idea.

14. Believing George W. Bush to be an idiot dunce who cheated his way into the White House with the help of his daddy's money is self-prescribed BS that Democrats should have gotten over before New Years Day 2001. He's outsmarted every single Democrat in the nation fair and square, as well as most pundits. Running a campaign as the 'Anti-Bush' is a bad idea.at your own peril.

27 posted on 11/07/2002 4:39:48 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
It's not a place for Bill Clinton to sign the thighs of college coeds with a felt-tip pen

Naw he di'nt!! Wellstone ought to come back and bit*h slap his sorry debauched a$$.

36 posted on 11/07/2002 4:50:40 PM PST by mafree
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To: The KG9 Kid
The Green Berets even conquered them in a cavalry charge

Where can I learn more about this?

40 posted on 11/07/2002 4:52:37 PM PST by Johnny Shear
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To: The KG9 Kid
To your most excellent list, I add:

The 'War On Terror':

1. Sending three Democratic US Senators to Iraq to kiss Saddam's ass. Bad idea, especially a month before the election. It's un-American, and cost the Democrats plenty.

1A. Once it became apparent that the voting majority was repelled by this outrage, criticism of the party leadership was muted, reinforcing the perception that these traitorous loons represented the views of the Democrats.

2. America's memory of 3000+ people killed by terrorists on worldwide TV is still fresh in their minds. When we retaliate against their leaders with missile-launching Predator drones, it's a bad idea to insist that they should have had defense lawyers and a jury of their peers. Sorry Liberals, but out there in the 'War On Terror' due process is a laser-guided missile.

2A. Many Americans with long memories (which grew longer after 9-11) recall Joe Biden's attack on the President about 10 weeks after 9-11; once again, criticism of the party leadership was muted, reinforcing the perception that this plagiarizing dunce represented the views of the Democrats.

3. Hundreds of thousands of US troops weren't killed in Afghanistan fighting the 'deadly and undefeated Mujahedin' who supposedly were the worlds fiercest warriors that lived in caves and ate dirt for supper. In fact, they got eaten alive by flying robot bombs and 40-year old US B-52s. The Green Berets even conquered them in a cavalry charge, which is the Mujaheddin's own game. Utter humiliation for the Taliban.

3B. Coupled with the results in the Gulf War, the contrast of the embarrassment in Mogadishu and pathetic responses to the first World Trade Center bombing, the USS Cole, the bombed embassies, etc., reminded Americans of who was better prepared to use America's might effectively to punish our enemies. Bonus pain for Dems: the revelations of the North Korean double cross. Double bonus pain: the Moscow theatre horror reminded all of us that these crazies are still out there and mean business. Final nail in the "it's the economy, stupid" coffin: John Williams was determined to be John Muhammad.

5. Instructing former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle to obstruct the wildly-popular president (77% approval as of November 6th, 2002) at every turn in the War On Terror: Bad idea.

5A. Supporting or failing to muzzle Al Gore in his "trial balloon" attacks on the President's position on Iraq, especially the debacle in San Francisco; once again, criticism of the party leadership was muted, reinforcing the perception that this tin-eared sore loser represented the views of the Democrats.

The War at Home:

7.5. While the Torricelli gambit worked to disgrace the state of New Jersey and reward it with two ethically-challenged and powerless members of the minority (who will deliver NOTHING for the Garden State), it struck the flyover citizens as a third world move. It reinforced the rapidly-gaining-in-acceptance notion that the Democratic Party is the party of lawsuits and judicial challenge to elections and processes. Brought up the worst memories of the Florida and the Gore-that-wouldn't-go-away. Energized the conservative base and alienated a lot of independents.

Poor Taste:

9. A funeral for a Democratic US Senator that died with his family in a tragic plane crash is not an occasion to invite 10,000 U of Minn college students and ply them with free beer. It's not a place for Bill Clinton to sign the thighs of college coeds with a felt-tip pen, to blow horns, drop confetti, or release balloons. It's not a campaign stop. It should look like a memorial service. When eight people die, it's not the time to play Fleetwood Mac's 'Don't Stop Thinkin' About Tomorrow'. Americans don't like it, and were shocked to consider that the Liberals would have acted the same way even if Paul Wellstone's body would have been in the same room. By contrast, Norm Coleman's acceptance speech looked more like a fitting memorial to Paul Wellstone. Admit it, you Liberals aren't from this world, are you? Wellstone's 'memorial service', covered by the network TV cameras, was a very bad idea.

9A. I hope some talented pollster will somehow be able to measure the national effect of this tawdry embarrassment and how it motivated otherwise marginal or undecided voters (or unlikely voters) to vote GOP. Most decent people reflexively gagged at the spectacle; upon recovering, I am sure that many wondered how the Democrat leadership could have allowed and participated in it. Indelible image: Governor Ventura walking out, his wife in tears.

10. 'Building The Bridge To The Twenty-First Century' should not include washed-up old has-beens like Walter Mondale who's been wearing sweaters that smell like mothballs for twenty years. Mondale is the man that tried with all his might to kill the NASA Apollo program in the mid-1960s after three brave men died in an accident. With pussies like him in charge, America would never have gone to the Moon. That's the man Democrats had in mind for leading America into the 21st Century? Fitting and expected coming from Liberals, but a very bad idea.

10A. The Mondale move was just plain stupid, and it became a national focus (transcended the Minnesota Senate race). It was probably made more so by the vulgarity of the Wellstone "fune-rally", but it reminded voters of some of the worst moments of the liberal plank of the party. His nastiness in the debate with Coleman reinforced the growing perception that the party of Clinton is mean. I was reminded of the disrespectful tone of Lloyd Bentsen in the Quayle debate, immediately preceding the slaughter of the Dukakis-Bentsen ticket. See 15, below, for the real bad news.

11. On the subject of failed politicians, it's time to tell the Democrats that Bill Clinton is the kiss of death. Every candidate he's flown in to campaign for since the year 2000 loses in a landslide. Face it Dems, the Clinton Era is over. Most Americans think 'Clinton' and want to barf. Don't believe me? Look at the scoreboard. Having Clinton campaign for you is a bad idea.

11A. He was and is a horror of a person, and he has dirtied everyone in his party. The Clinton taint will not wash off for a generation, at least, and when history produces the record of Bill Clinton, it will make the Warren G. Harding and Richard Nixon scandals and character flaws look innocent and mild by comparison (sooner or later, some of these people are going to tell all). Tuesday night was the beginning of the real end of the Clintonistas, and I predict a rapid distancing of the people from Hillary as a national figure. Bush has become emblematic of class and the importance of grace and character, and the picture of the Clintons at the Wellstone thing capture the qualities that repel Americans today. I am not sure who the Dems will turn to in 2008 (2004 is now off), but it will not be anyone associated with Democrats when the Clintons were in power.

12. Attack campaigning is a loser idea, especially when your candidate is dirtier than their opponent to begin with. There's a special place in Hell for those who accuse their enemies of their own worst crimes. Attack campaigning is a bad idea.

12A. I diagree with this point. It works, especially to keep people from going to vote. I personally find it distasteful, but it is proven effective.

The Future:

13. Turning further politically Left is a recipe for disaster. Ignoring my kind advice is a bad idea.

13A. Nancy Pelosi--her ascension assures further gains for the GOP in 2004.

14. Believing George W. Bush to be an idiot dunce who cheated his way into the White House with the help of his daddy's money is self-prescribed BS that Democrats should have gotten over before New Years Day 2001. He's outsmarted every single Democrat in the nation fair and square, as well as most pundits. Running a campaign as the 'Anti-Bush' is a bad idea.at your own peril.

14A. One of the most understood messages of this election. It underscores the impotence of the Dems and their lack of ideas. It also shows the lack of qualification of someone like Terry McAuliffe to lead the Democratic Party. 15. The graciousness with which the GOP winners accepted the will of the people was in stark contrast to the gracelessness of the Clintonites at the Wellstone circus and the mean-spirited tone of Terry McAuliffe, James Carville and Paul Begala. This will be remembered, especially in contrast to the dishonor of Sore-Loserman in 2000 and the vandalism of the White House by the Clinton staffers. 16. A shift back to the sovereignty of America and the impulse for unilateralism when called for is apparent with GWB's near rejection of the UN in the face of its hypocrisy over Iraq. The Democratic impulse is to resist this, and this will be an ongoing source of problems for the Democrats.

58 posted on 11/07/2002 5:40:47 PM PST by Zebra
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To: The KG9 Kid
Wow, you did a GREAT job on this post #27. I haven't read further on the thread yet, but want to mention:

1. That was no funeral... it was the Plane Crash Jamboree. Anyone not a hopeless Clintonite who watched it saw it in either that gut-wrenching light or saw the scary reminders of Hitler's rise.

2. The RNC and Racicot deserve a great deal of kudos for their focussing on "Get Out The Vote" efforts in the competitive states and funding those efforts.

66 posted on 11/07/2002 7:11:05 PM PST by AFPhys
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