Hillary in '08?

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[gonewt]

Source Says Hillary Doesn't Think She Could Win In 2004 Thu Nov 07 2002 09:52:53 ET

In opinion polls, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has placed second only to Mr. Gore as the candidate whom Democrats would most support for president, the NEW YORK TIMES and Katharine Seelye reported on Thursday.

But one person close to Senator Clinton said she was adamant about not running in 2004 and that her negative ratings were still too high to venture out now.

Moreover, he said, her values were probably too liberal for the rest of the country.

'We need a candidate who can, without compromising the essence of who we are, reach across the values divide, which is the divide that sunk us yesterday, and I'm not sure she can do that,' this Democrat said. 'I have no doubt she's planning to run in 2008. That's the plan and they'll stick to it, especially if they think 2004 is a loser.'"

[borisbob69]

That's something I hadn't really considered. Oh well...back to the drawing board.

[borisbob69]

Which babe are you referring to? Liddy Dole or Mrs Slickmeister?

[RLK]

Boy, are you right about that one. Take a look at Mrs. Dole today compared to when she campaigned for Dole in '96. She really looks old. Of course, she did win the election..

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Hillary has a face that looks like a baby's butt when she gets tired and bloated. However, she has excellent facial bone structure. A little plastic surgery pull-back in front of her ears will have her looking like a fashion model and it will sell like hotcakes.

[Paleo Conservative]

If the military and terrorist situation continues, Hillary is out of the box for 2004. If it is resolved, Bush's popularity will plummet in the same way as did his father's and for the same reasons and more.

I disagree. 43 is a lot more interested in domestic policy than his father ever was. 41 seemed to be totally uninterested in persuing a Republican agenda on domestic issues, and he did not spend any of the political capital he gained from winning the Gulf War in such a stunning fashion. With a 91% approval rating, 41 could have gotten just about any piece of major legislation approved (like a capital gains tax cut or indexing), but he didn't. 43 seems to have learned from his father's mistakes. This last election shows he is willing to risk some of his accumulated political capital to help Republicans around the country get elected. Even Ronald Reagan was skittish about spending his political capital. In 1984 Reagan should have spent more time helping Republican candidates than trying to build a higher personal margin of victory over Mondale. If President Bush working with a Republican congress, can use the capital he as aquired as commander and chief and make substantial domestic policy gains, he will be able to win re-election regardless of whether terrorism is no longer an issue.

I must also add I don't believe the terrorism issue will be solved in this decade. We are not even at the beginning of the end.

[gonewt]

There is no way, repeat no way that she'll lose re-election in 2006. She & her cronies control the Democratic party. It doesn't matter who runs against her -- she'll smear him in the press and her foot soldiers will "find" enough votes to give her another term.

Many of us (me included) didn't think she'd win in NY in 2000, but she did. This woman is evil, clever, and worst of all, patient. By the time she runs for president, she's counting on everybody forgetting the trail of sleaze she left behind after she left the White House.

I do think it'll be challenging for her to win a national election, simply because 40-45% of the electorate will never, ever support her. But if we don't seriously challenge her with a good candidate AND continue to educate people about her record, we could be in for the shock of our lives.

[SamAdams76]

In opinion polls, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has placed second only to Mr. Gore as the candidate whom Democrats would most support for president, the NEW YORK TIMES and Katharine Seelye reported on Thursday.

Music to my ears. If these two socialist bozos are the best the 'Rats have to offer, get ready for a long string of Republican administrations. My concern however is that they will come to their senses and move to the middle, putting somebody like John Kerry or John Edwards up for the nomination. Those two will be tougher to beat.

[RLK]

I disagree. 43 is a lot more interested in domestic policy than his father ever was. 41 seemed to be totally uninterested in persuing a Republican agenda on domestic issues...

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Nice generalities. So tell me, where are there in-depth Bush analyses of immigration and economics? Nobody has heard or seen any. What statements has he made about Waco and the threat of threat of rogue government agents killing people?

I know... Forget it. Let's talk about the terrorists and the middle east.

[Slyfox]

[betty boop]

Hi gonewt! Somehow I just can't see the Clintons waiting until 2008. Have you noticed how Bill has not been seen since the election? I imagine Bill and Hill are "licking their political wounds"; but they still own the Democrat apparatus lock, stock, and barrel; so they will likely find a way to "live for another day."

Moreover, I doubt that McAuliffe -- Clinton's loyal (i.e., bought and paid-for) lieutenant -- will be removed from his position as party chairman. (He could yet show up at Fort Marcy park sometime soon, of course. But to me, this probably won't happen.)

I don't think it's too strong to say that this cabal runs the party for the personal political interests of the Clintons. So, once the shock of last Tuesday wears off a bit, I imagine they'll be back in high gear, scheming and planning to get back in the game -- in 2004 -- unless the Dems come to their senses and flat-out repudiate and eject these two.

But the Clintons are such powerful fund raisers, it's hard to see how that could happen. Hill may have negatives; but I doubt Bill is patient enough to wait until 2008 to get back into the big-time game -- that is, the White House.

He's a gambler; and don't forget, he's the self-described "comeback kid."

So stay tuned. JMHO FWIW.

[Marysecretary]

I think it was over-the-Hill-ary.

[mikeb704]

That combined with years and years of head-bobbing action.

[Henrietta]

Read "Marc Tucker to Hillary Clinton" (just type it in your address line)

I'm interested in reading this, but can't figure out what you are talking about. Can you provide a link?

[timestax]

Where's Billdo!!

[timestax]

bump

[J. Semper Paratus]

Hitlery?

Reincarnation?

Hmmmmm.

[EggsAckley]

we must continue to educate people on her cold-blooded pursuit of power

Or better yet, continue to try putting her in jail where she belongs.

[EggsAckley]

As Jerry Seinfeld said, "She's got MAN hands!"

LOL!

[ladylib]

Sorry, it's Marc Tucker LETTER to Hillary Clinton.

http://www.mredcopac.org/tucker.htm

Read it and weep, or throw up like another Freeper wanted to do.

[ladylib]

Unfortunately, it affects all states. Minnesota and Oregon have real scary policies for their public schools. Several years ago, in NJ, the state wanted high school juniors and seniors to devote one day a week (which meant that they would lose 20% of their educational time)to go to a worksite. If they wanted to stay in school five days a week, they would be required to work on their vacation or free time. Parents went ballastic, but that doesn't mean that the state is exempt from School-to-Work laws. Now, the schools are dividing up into academies and in some places, kids will have to declare an area of interest in their sophomore year, which they will "major" in. Read the Maple River Coalition website. In Minnesota, kids in eighth grade are required to pick an area of interest and be TRAINED in it in high school. These areas of interest depend on local WORKFORCE needs, not necessarily what the kids want to do. How would you like some government lackey (public school employee) deciding your kid isn't going to go to college, buy maybe into a vocational school or right out into the workforce?

Don't think the Republicans are against this. School-to-Work is very popular in certain areas of Texas. That Republican who likes to wear a flannel shirt got (can't remember his name offhand) it started in Tennessee (see Wilson County Parents Coalition).

Schools exist to teach students academic subjects, not vocational subjects (unless that's what a student chooses). They have no place in training students for menial jobs based on local workforce needs.

[Bigg Red]

Hillary will use the next 6 years to quietly move more towards the center, and improve her image.

You've said what I was going to say -- but much more succinctly. The UberHag will adjust her public personna any way that is necessary for her victory. With the lamestream press ever at the ready as her lackeys, she will present a force to be reckoned with.