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An Old Battle Flag Helps Bring Down a Governor
New York Times ^ | Thursday, November 7, 2002 | By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

Posted on 11/06/2002 10:23:23 PM PST by JohnHuang2

November 7, 2002

An Old Battle Flag Helps Bring Down a Governor

By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

ATLANTA, Nov. 6 — It was a hidden grudge, so private, apparently, that no polls picked it up.

Last year Gov. Roy Barnes, a Democrat, led a successful effort to change Georgia's state flag, which then prominently featured the Confederate battle cross.

This Tuesday, he paid the price.

In their first chance to vent their anger, white voters in rural areas turned out in record numbers to vote out Mr. Barnes in one of the most stunning upsets this year. The governor had been considered one of the brightest lights in the Democratic Party, a gifted speaker, moderate, strong on education and a possible contender for vice president or even president.

Much of the state's Democratic leadership was swept out on Tuesday, after a campaign that featured frequent visits for Republican candidates by President Bush and harsh advertisements against Senator Max Cleland, a Democrat seeking a second term.

But the governor's defeat was the biggest surprise of the night here, and in the morning-after search for answers, the flag issue surfaced as a leading explanation.

"There was this huge undercurrent of resentment and anger about the flag, but I think we all missed it because it's not something people discuss in the open," said Merle Black, a political scientist at Emory University in Atlanta. "The Confederate flag is still a very powerful symbol. A lot of white voters felt Barnes was not on their side when he pushed to change it."

The rural white voting base was mobilized this year as never before, but it did not simply follow Republican marching orders. What happened was more personal than that. While the governor lost badly in rural counties like Floyd and Colquitt, his Democratic partner, Lt. Gov. Mark Taylor, won there, showing that voters were angry not at all Democrats but certainly at Mr. Barnes.

"The flag was definitely part of the equation," said another Georgia Democrat, Senator Zell Miller. "I could spend all day and all evening trying to explain why this is such an emotional issue. It just is."

Though the state banner is not the only reason Democrats were routed in Georgia, it is part of a basket of problems the party faces here. Democrats are seen as out of touch with the state's conservative values. Georgia, with its 11 major military bases, its large rural areas and its Deep South traditions, proved in 2000 that it was solid Bush country. Once again on Tuesday, it went heavily Republican.

Another upset was the defeat of Senator Cleland, a decorated Vietnam veteran, to his Republican challenger, Representative Saxby Chambliss. The Democratic speaker of the Georgia House, Tom Murphy, who had held his seat for 41 years, also lost, as did a Democratic candidate in a new Congressional district that had been gerrymandered by the Democratic-controlled legislature to produce a Democratic representative.

"This was a train that has been coming down the track for the past 10 years," Senator Miller said. "Georgia is not the solid Democratic state it was in the past. It's very competitive. The Republicans did a masterful job of energizing their base."

One of Mr. Perdue's campaign promises was to have a referendum on the state flag, resurrecting a matter that dated from January 2001, when Governor Barnes, intervening in a longtime battle, pushed for a new flag design.

Georgia had remained one of the last Southern states to feature the Confederate battle cross on their flags. Blacks said the flag was racist, but many whites said it spoke to their heritage. Mr. Barnes stepped into the middle of the controversy with a proposal to shrink the symbol to a small box at the bottom of the flag.

The legislature quickly approved the compromise, but the move infuriated many white voters across the state, who turned against the governor on Tuesday. In rural Worth County, Mr. Barnes won 57 percent of the vote when he ran for governor in 1998; this year he scored 45 percent. In another rural county, Laurens, he won 60 percent four years ago; this year it was 39 percent. In all, Mr. Barnes won just 46 percent of the statewide vote, against 52 percent for Mr. Perdue.

Asked whether it could have been the governor's progressive education plans, or perhaps his close ties to the black leadership of Atlanta, William Boone, a political science professor at Clark Atlanta University, said he did not think so. "The flag dragged Barnes down," Dr. Boone said. "He was one of the most progressive governors in the South. Now he's gone."


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Thursday, November 7, 2002

Quote of the Day by leprechaun9

1 posted on 11/06/2002 10:23:23 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Yep- no doubt about it, it was those angry white males who brought down this "progressive" Governor. That's their story, and they're stickin' to it.
2 posted on 11/06/2002 10:28:39 PM PST by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: All
He got what he deserved.
3 posted on 11/06/2002 10:32:41 PM PST by Truth Telling Guy
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To: Truth Telling Guy
They don't like southpaws down South who take marching orders from Kwaisi Mfume and Jesse Jackson. Roy Barnes got exactly what he deserved.
4 posted on 11/06/2002 10:35:45 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: JohnHuang2
On the other hand the NY Times never gives up on its old red battle flag. Still apologizing for the Stalins and Castros and Islamist terrorists while blaming it all on Southron white guys.
5 posted on 11/06/2002 10:38:52 PM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: JohnHuang2
Notice that they have absolutely *zero* evidence to support this theory. It may be right, it may not be... But it is basically pure speculation. I'd be interested to hear from Georgia Freepers on why Perdue won.
6 posted on 11/06/2002 10:52:28 PM PST by ambrose
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To: JohnHuang2
Also many objected to being froze out of the procees too, I suspect. (He got too uppity in the matter. Moral: Don't get uppity down south. )
7 posted on 11/06/2002 10:54:35 PM PST by Waco
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To: JohnHuang2
Advance the flag of Dixie, hurrah, hurrah!
For Dixieland, we take our stand to live or die for Dixie!
To arms, to arms, and conquer peace for Dixie!
To arms, to arms, and conquer peace for Dixie!

8 posted on 11/06/2002 11:00:54 PM PST by Taft in '52
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To: Waco; ambrose
Most blacks in the South don't consider the flag racist at all.
9 posted on 11/06/2002 11:04:42 PM PST by Truth Telling Guy
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To: JohnHuang2
It'd be nice if Zell would cross the aisle; of course, he's probably ticked off that Cleland was defeated.
10 posted on 11/06/2002 11:06:58 PM PST by Holden Magroin
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To: ambrose
I'd be interested to hear from Georgia Freepers on why Perdue won.

A) Barnes took victory for granted and thus made little effort to energize his base in the cities.
B) Nasty weather kept all but the dedicated from the polls.
C) Perdue benefitted hugely from Chambliss's coattails and the anti-Cleland vote.
D) The new flat-panel voting machines made fraud more difficult and straight party-line voting easier.
E) The flag issue didn't have squat to do with Barnes losing and it's typical of the Times to think it did. Lazy, yankee-centric journalism has become a way of life there.

Leroy (near @lanta)

12 posted on 11/06/2002 11:22:52 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Tabi
Every Confederate was a Democrat, every single one. Those who remained loyal to the Stars and Stripes were Republicans.


13 posted on 11/06/2002 11:24:56 PM PST by Grand Old Partisan
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To: Leroy S. Mort
So were you absolutely shocked by his win? This seemed to be on no one's radar screen. Even the "wishful thinking" Freeper contingent that said Jay Wolfe would beat Rockefeller in W. Virginia made no mention of this race.
14 posted on 11/06/2002 11:46:01 PM PST by ambrose
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To: JohnHuang2
Let's see - before the Confederacy was formed, the Stars and Stripes flew over all the slave-holding states. So I guess Old Glory is also a racist symbol.
15 posted on 11/06/2002 11:50:17 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: ambrose
So were you absolutely shocked by his win?

It was a total shock. But I failed to mention also that the school teachers in GA hated Barnes' guts for his educational "reform" programs. It's hard for a Dem to win in GA these days without a strong city vote and the active support of the teachers.

16 posted on 11/06/2002 11:57:37 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort
My guess for the reason behind the Republican sweeps in Georgia and Florida:
D) The new flat-panel voting machines made fraud more difficult and straight party-line voting easier.
Has Illinois gone to touch screens yet? If not, I would be very curious to see what would happen there.
17 posted on 11/07/2002 4:47:10 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: JohnHuang2
So is Perdue going to return to the old flag or is he going to wimp out and leave the new one in place?
18 posted on 11/07/2002 4:51:15 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: ambrose
I am from Georgia, and it is a fact that the flag played a big part in the Barnes defeat. The people here were really ticked off when he changed the flag without letting the public vote on it. No one made a big public deal about it, but they just waited till the next election to express their feelings. Semper Fi.
19 posted on 11/07/2002 6:45:34 AM PST by Tiger6
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To: Tiger6
So is Perdue going to return to the old flag or is he going to wimp out and leave the new one in place?

If he perceives that the flag was important to his win then he will put it to a statewide vote.

20 posted on 11/07/2002 9:39:23 AM PST by arthurus
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