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FOXNEWS: FBI Uncovers Al-Qaeda Drugs-for-Arms Plot
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Posted on 11/06/2002 8:38:40 AM PST by Thane_Banquo

FOXnews just reported that the FBI has busted up an Al-Qaeda drugs-for-arms smuggling plot.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugs; islam; religionofpeace; terrorism
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Libertarian and socialist dopeheads to enter spin control mode.
1 posted on 11/06/2002 8:38:41 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Thane_Banquo
Let me rephrase that: "Libertarians and socialist dopeheads." The difference between Libertarians and socialists is that Libertarians have an intellectual position for drug legalization, while socialists only want drugs legalized so they can get smack for cheaper.

Anyway, I apologize to FR libertarians for the insinuation.

2 posted on 11/06/2002 8:42:06 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Thane_Banquo
News flash from earlier in the century: Al Capone's liquor running leads to gun buys and murder.
Of course AQ is going to deal in drugs to make money, its the only way they can make gobs of it as the prices are inflated and they're already in the terror business so they know the ropes.
3 posted on 11/06/2002 8:47:26 AM PST by lelio
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To: Thane_Banquo
Libertarian and socialist dopeheads to enter spin control mode.

What's to spin? If widgets were illegal you could trade them for arms.

4 posted on 11/06/2002 8:47:27 AM PST by putupon
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To: putupon
What's to spin? If widgets were illegal you could trade them for arms.

Exactlty.

And the headline says "drugs" when they no doubtedly mean heroine, which is not even one of the yop five most widely used drugs in America. Most heroine from Asia/ME goes to Europe.

So, I guess we bomb Europe for funding terrorists. We have no choice. Its for the security of the Nation; its for our children....

5 posted on 11/06/2002 8:54:09 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: Thane_Banquo
Make selling drugs criminal, and only criminals will sell drugs.
6 posted on 11/06/2002 8:56:06 AM PST by John H K
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To: Thane_Banquo
Willie Nelson to be targetted by Ashcroft?
7 posted on 11/06/2002 8:57:39 AM PST by Lexington Green
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To: FreeTally
Just France.And Germany.
8 posted on 11/06/2002 9:01:42 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: Thane_Banquo
Take the profit out of selling drugs by legalizing them. That $500 bucks worth of smack would be worth about $5. Let's see any terrorist by arms. What harm could they do with a soda straw and tablet paper?

Learn some supply and demand econimcs before making such absurd allegations.

9 posted on 11/06/2002 9:01:47 AM PST by Dead Corpse
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To: Dead Corpse
How about this: make the drugs legal but strongly frown upon them, ie your employer can fire you show up strung out on your job. Make drug consuling more widespread.
Get the added benefit of smack going down to $5 from $500 and people will get help.
Plus I won't have to see an ad on TV that equates buying some pot to a family getting killed in central America.
10 posted on 11/06/2002 9:07:59 AM PST by lelio
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To: Dead Corpse
Al-Queda operatives have funded terror by smuggling cigarettes (a legal drug) and by coupon fraud (a labor intensive activity with a low margin).

Legal heroin would still be run by criminals, terrorists and drug lords because it generates cash and the drugs are a relatively compact store of value, even at the lower legalization prices. I doubt the street price would decline much under legalization as that demand is inelastic. However the drug lords would lose margin under legalization which they would try to make up thru increased market share and volume.

11 posted on 11/06/2002 9:09:28 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Dead Corpse
Absolutely correct. However, I'm constantly surprized that no one ever brings up this issue: what will happen to all of the miscreants who derive their livelihood (and a damn good one, I might add) from their involvement in the drug trade.

Perhaps they'll all return to school and become mechanical engineers, computer programmers, and history teachers. I can just see it now...

12 posted on 11/06/2002 9:10:05 AM PST by rube
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To: lelio
I agree with you about employers being able to maintain whatever standards for their employees they wish to have.

When you say "make drug counsuling more widespread", I certainly hope you don't intend to use tax dollars to fund those programs. We've got way to much socialism going on in our medical industry the way it is. Either their insurance would pick up the tab, or they can just suffer and die. Put Darwin to work and pay the Street cleaners a little extra to haul the bodies away. It sounds heartless, but it is a LOT preferable to protecting people from the price of their stupidity.

The US propaganda war being waged on TV reminds me of the stuff the KGB spread through Tass and Pravda.

13 posted on 11/06/2002 9:15:22 AM PST by Dead Corpse
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To: rube
There is no drug war. All the hullaballo over the one time every 3 month excess of a local police department is a manufacturede event by the libertarians.

We are not fighting a drug war. We are waging peace with peole who have caused one of the greatest moral declines this country has ever seen by bring the brain functions of kids and adults down to the level of the gutter. And, through soe misguided idea of what L:IBERTY is supposed to be, they want it legalized to make it too ineffectual for terrorists/gangs to exploit.

NONESNSE.

Start executing drug dealers. That will send a message. Those that continue to use drugs even though they can get executed for it, deserve to be executed. It only proves what the effect ofdrugs actually is!! It makes you so stupid you will allow yourself to be killed for one fix!!

14 posted on 11/06/2002 9:16:51 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: rube
I don't know about that. The smart ones will try to transition to the legal smoke shops and distribution points. The ones who like their crime salted with violence and danger will either end up dead of in jail as they switch to other areas of crime.

Yet another reason the LP wants the Second Amendment restored to its FULL strength. The public at large has gotten WAY to used to the Government saying they will protect them. The only one you can count on 24/7 to protect you is YOU.

15 posted on 11/06/2002 9:18:31 AM PST by Dead Corpse
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To: RaceBannon
LOL!!!

You didn't return to the padded room after the Dems got you out to vote yesterday, did you?

16 posted on 11/06/2002 9:22:49 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: lelio
And of course al-Qaedas market is in the same areas that they offer Islam as the answer to drug abuse - the minority community-..then blame it all on the white man...and channel the hate into terrorism...
After the muslim takeover though...it will middle eastern bosses...only except for a few tokens to keep the thugs inline..
The religous POE Leese be taken care of de rest..
First we sell you de problem and then we sell you the cure...and then we get rid of you..
17 posted on 11/06/2002 9:23:13 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: Thane_Banquo
No spin needed. This news actually strenghtens one of the arguments for drug legalization. The flow of money into the hands of the violent is reinforce by the inflated prices caused by drug prohibition which stiffles competition from the peaceable and law-abiding, and (as the case of Al Capone shows) pushes the trade into the hands of more and more ruthless criminals the more strongly the prohibition is enforced.

(Liquor running on the Great Lakes was a ma-and-pa operation with very little violence associated until stiff enforcement handed it to Capone's gang.)

I myself am a moderate on the issue: if the social harms of the prohibition of a certain drug outweight the social harms of its increased use under a legalization regime, it should be legalized, if the balance is the other way, it should stay illegal. I just wish people would have the clarity of mind to distinguish which socal harms are cause by drug use and which are caused by giving the trade to criminals.

18 posted on 11/06/2002 9:23:43 AM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: RaceBannon
Those that continue to use drugs even though they can get executed for it, deserve to be executed. It only proves what the effect ofdrugs actually is!! It makes you so stupid you will allow yourself to be killed for one fix!!

Man, those brain-damaged, warped Christians beat all I have ever seen. I mean, they knew they would be thrown to the lions, executed for their faith, but continued in spite. Religion sure makes you so stupid that you will allow yourself to be killed for one fix!

I could go on.....

19 posted on 11/06/2002 9:28:51 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: Dialup Llama
Why not continue the trend and start a War on Alcohol?
20 posted on 11/06/2002 9:29:00 AM PST by BranMakMorn
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