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GUILTY - Now jury decides if they will live or die [Wichita Massacre]
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 11/05/02 | Ron Sylvester

Posted on 11/05/2002 4:37:02 AM PST by KS Flyover

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To: skeeter
Hate crimes laws are a farce.

Of course they are. And worse. They are racist. Hate crime laws were never meant to apply to black on white or gay on straight hate crimes. And they have never been applied this way to my knowledge. They are another sickening, immoral, and dangerous kind if law. These are laws that disgust and inflame and increase the level of hate.

41 posted on 11/05/2002 8:09:37 AM PST by eleni121
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To: eleni121
They are another sickening, immoral, and dangerous kind if law.

Even worse, the law was created for political effect. Another step on the road to a banana republic.

42 posted on 11/05/2002 8:12:08 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Chi-Town Lady
As vile as these two pukes are, they are according to our constitution, entitled to a defense.

True. But THESE Lawyers did not have to choose to defend them. The court could have appointed lawyers. But these guys are on a crusade to get everybody they can off the death penalty. And in so doing, they deprive victims and their families of the justice they deserve. They may not be as bad as the Carrs. But they are still filth in my book.

43 posted on 11/05/2002 8:13:38 AM PST by republicman
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To: Chi-Town Lady
"A lawyer somewhere would have to defend them no matter what."

I understand that that is the law, but I disagree with it. Guilt in this case is so obvious and the hideousness of the crime so great that there should have been no one willing to defend these people. Let there be a mistrial and let the defendents end up on the street. Then, let the outrage of the community make itself felt. Lynching would be entirely appropriate in this case. Some crimes are so great that a person simply forfeits all protections of the social contract and the perpetrator is little better than a rabid animal who must be put down.

As it is, appeals will drag on for years, and the Carr brothers will be able to enjoy all the benefits of subsidised government housing and cable television until the nature of their crimes fades down the Memory Hole and they become the next Mumias. How much you wanna bet that they "find God" and convert to Islam behind bars?

"The lawyers did their job, maybe not even to the best of their ability because they were so outraged by the crime."

. . . and therein lie the grounds for dismissal on appeal.

44 posted on 11/05/2002 8:26:30 AM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
wrong. not entitled to a perfect defense, or even the best defense possible, just a fair defense within the legal community. No grounds for dismissal.
45 posted on 11/05/2002 9:38:26 AM PST by job
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
Believe me I understand where you are coming from. These low bellied cockroaches should receive swift justice but unfortunately there are those who believe that death is not the answer and will put up such a stink to stop it from happening. I am not one of those individuals. I cannot fathom, in my wildest, how anyone could do such horrendous things to another human being. I could agree that after being found guilty, one quick appeal (say within 90 days of the original sentencing)and then it's an eye for an eye. But in order for that to happen we have to change the laws first. If not would we really be any better than the scum?
46 posted on 11/05/2002 9:44:07 AM PST by Chi-Town Lady
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To: nicmarlo
I think the horrible case you mentioned (the woman was quoted as saying "I hit this white guy, te-hee-hee") took place in Atlanta. Naturally it has vanished down the memory hole of the leftist media.
47 posted on 11/05/2002 9:57:52 AM PST by Bogolyubski
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I've held off of pinging to this thread on a daily basis (much as I've backed off of the sniper threads), to keep from bogging down. But with the verdict, a new ping is warranted.
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48 posted on 11/05/2002 10:07:39 AM PST by mhking
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To: KS Flyover
There is a time for mercy. This is not it.

Kill these insects.

49 posted on 11/05/2002 10:10:29 AM PST by IronJack
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To: KS Flyover
"Sammy Paul, another junior who had Befort as a coach, recalled the quiet day following his murder."

Sammy is lucky, most people who are murdered usually cannot recall the next day, even if it is quiet.

The only exception I am aware of are dead Democrat voters.

They are often recalled to come back to vote.

The Eagle might want to hire a home schooler to edit their articles.

50 posted on 11/05/2002 11:08:19 AM PST by Hal.009
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To: BurkeCalhounDabney
Excellent critique, teach!

Now how about sending todays lesson to Mr. Sylvester, who is in dire need of your instruction. :`)

Reach Ron Sylvester at 268-6514 or rsylvester@wichitaeagle.com

52 posted on 11/05/2002 3:15:18 PM PST by KS Flyover
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