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To: FL_engineer
you see, I want to know about that 22 cal. gun.....

the Short family was executed by a 22....that was in Virginia....

there was also another freak incident where two adults...man and woman...were gunned down on a roadside somewhere in Virginia.....that happened a little after the Short murders....but I will be damned if I know where to reaserch tht.....it seems to have dissappeared off the radar.....

14 posted on 11/04/2002 7:52:53 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry
Are the media not able to tell the difference between a .22LR and a .223Rem? Or was this guy really shot six times at close range with an AR-15, and back at work the next week?
19 posted on 11/04/2002 9:36:29 PM PST by SicTransitGloriaMundi
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To: cherry
I just got done reading about the Short family murders before answering this...
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/4277465.htm

I haven't looked for the VA roadside murders you mentioned yet. I do not know how Muhammad / Malvo travelled around before buying the Caprice, though at times I have heard by bus. If they had an accomplice, that could explain apparent uses of a car before Sept 11th.

Muhammad/Malvo's whereabouts on Aug 14 2002 are still unknown
The .22 Magnum should be easily matchable to any other shootings. Either Alabama has it, or the FBI.
here are the timeline portions of interest to you...


21 posted on 11/04/2002 11:26:38 PM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: cherry
I also used mapquest to find the quickest route between Montgomery AL and DC. In my opinion, most VA crime done by Muhammad would be along this path.

But Bassett VA is about an hour away from this path.

DIRECTIONS DISTANCE
1: Start out going North on S UNION ST/AL-9. 0.05 miles
2: Merge onto I-85 N. 146.95 miles
3: Take the I-285-BYP E exit- exit number 68- toward MACON/AUGUSTA. 1.16 miles
4: Merge onto I-285 E/GA-407 E. 28.12 miles
5: Merge onto I-85 N via exit number 33 toward GREENVILLE. 274.21 miles
6: I-85 N becomes US-70 E/US-29 N. 4.11 miles
7: Take I-85 N toward THOMASVILLE/GREENSBORO. 214.89 miles
8: Merge onto I-95 N via the exit- on the left- toward RICHMOND. 27.60 miles
9: Merge onto I-64 W via exit number 79 toward POWHITE PKWY/CHARLOTTESVILLE. 9.24 miles
10: Merge onto I-295 S via exit number 177 toward WASHINGTON/NORFOLK. 8.49 miles
11: Take the I-95/US-1 exit- exit number 43- toward RICHMOND/WASHINGTON. 0.19 miles
12: Take the US-1 N ramp toward ASHLAND. 0.29 miles
13: Take the ramp toward I-95/RICHMOND/WASHINGTON. 0.33 miles
14: Merge onto I-95 N toward WASHINGTON. 86.12 miles
15: Merge onto I-395 N via exit number 170A- on the left- toward WASHINGTON. 10.37 miles
16: Merge onto US-1 N via the exit- on the left. 0.94 miles
17: Turn LEFT onto MADISON DR NW. 0.06 miles
18: Turn RIGHT onto 15TH ST NW. 0.14 miles
19: Turn LEFT onto CONSTITUTION AVE NW/US-50. 0.16 miles
20: Turn RIGHT onto 16TH ST NW. 0.03 miles
21: Turn LEFT onto ELLIPSE RD NW. 0.30 miles
Total Estimated Time: Total Distance:
13 hours, 14 minutes 813.75 miles

22 posted on 11/05/2002 6:31:15 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: cherry
I tend not to think the Short murders were part of Muhammad's jihad. The parents were shot inside the house at close range. From what I remember of what was reported, there were no signs of forced entry. Not Muhammad's usual style - although, who knows? Police are investigating a guy who skipped to Canada soon after the murders and are right now testing a bunch of his belongings for DNA. Also, it seems to me that Muhammad's jihad was centered near major highways (I-95) and the Short murders weren't anywhere near that area. But then again, this guy seems to have to gone all over the country.

I haven't heard about the other shootings you mentioned. Do you remember any other details?
23 posted on 11/05/2002 6:37:37 AM PST by iceskater
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