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To: Joe Brower; Grampa Dave; wardaddy
I see the entire sniper incident as what the author said: a publicity campaign designed to jump start the other five star ***** five percenters into independent action.

I think the "5 percenters" are just a handy "deniable" subset of the NOI.

John Mohammed was using the national media to communicate to THEM.

73 posted on 11/03/2002 11:25:14 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
John Mohammed was using the national media to communicate to THEM.

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Communicate what? How to get your behind thrown in the slammer while awaiting execution.

HEY ALL YOU 5%S, LOOK AT ME NOW

74 posted on 11/03/2002 11:36:03 AM PST by TexKat
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To: Travis McGee
5 percenters are exactly as you describe....I have my experiences with them. They are to NOI as the Order was to Pete Peters.
91 posted on 11/03/2002 7:03:28 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: Travis McGee
I think the "5 percenters" are just a handy "deniable" subset of the NOI.

You know you're off in Never-Never Land when the Nation of Islam is the mainstream group!

I get the impression that the 5 Percenters started out as a genuine splinter group, separate from the NOI, probably due to this Clarence 13X wanting his own following. But maybe the two groups have had a rapprochement in recent years? (I gather that the Five Percenters went through a period of decline after Clarence died, but rap and hiphop provided the means for a revival.) Farrakhan did have some good things to say about the Five Percenters in at least one speech, although apparently their religious doctrines are quite different.

In any case, as far as is known, Muhammad was just a member of the NOI, not a Five Percenter, although he was clearly influenced by Five Percenter ideology and jargon. He is also said to have had some type of security role for Farrakhan and the NOI, I think at the Million Man March. I suspect that there are a lot of hangers-on, and that, as with most groups, people offering generalized support at the periphery are far more numerous than the organized core at the center.

95 posted on 11/03/2002 9:00:39 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; Shermy; Clovis_Skeptic; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ladyinred; WhiteOwl; fooman
You are right on target with these comments of yours:

I think the "5 percenters" are just a handy "deniable" subset of the NOI.

The Islamofascists around the world have a lot of violent handy deniable subset cults/sects around the world.

John Mohammed was using the national media to communicate to THEM.

It will be interesting to see how many of the Islamakazi abettors and apologizers on Free Republic will try to disagree with you on this comment.

102 posted on 11/04/2002 7:44:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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