Ok, here I'll truthfully and accurately call you a LIAR. I said that foreign companies MIGHT submit more applications than they have people due to the very real possibility that they MIGHT be selling work visas on the black market. You asked what would be their motive for submiting more applications than they had people, and that was my answer.
You later said that I hadn't given you a motive for why they would want to do that, and I again replied that those visas could be sold. I furthur stated that those visas COULD be sold to terrorists attempting to get into this country unnoticed. That IS a very real possibility that you refuse to acknowledge. There ARE also young women that are brought in for the dubious purpose of working in the sex trade. Obviously that notion appears ludricrous to you, but it DOES in fact happen. And of course there ARE people who simply want to skip into this country and live here illegally. Yet you refuse to see that fact.
If you want to do a post by post rehash of the above, I COULD do that if necessary. Doing so would waste a significant amount of bandwidth and time. Do you REALLY feel it necessary to do so?
I've never once accused zazona of deliberately corrupting the data, the worst I've said about them is that it's possible their stored procedures that bring out the data (often refered to as "massaging data" but not in an indicting way, massages are a good thing, you need one, you seem tense) might suck.
You have danced and skipped all over the place on this. You DID allude to a "deliberate falsification of data", and have repeatedly and shamelessly slandered the zazona.com website operators with no evidence to back up your groundless and inaccurate characterizations..
Quotes from you..
Now I'm a nice guy so I'll assume sloppy code not deliberate falsification of data, but either way the site isn't presenting an accurate picture.
I think there's something wierd in how your guys are pulling their data.
Sorry the problems with your guys.
Sorry, I'm of the school that who ever handled the data last is the ones that screwed things up, if the INS data is bad they could massage it, or at least point out that the INS data they're using sucks and has numerous apparent duplicates.
Which is why I place the blame on the last people to handle the data.
Incompitent people run databases all over the world. But again it's the frequency that's got me. Every search brings apparent dups. Fraud might be rampant in this program but the frequency of these dups is beyond rampant.
Great that shows your place's data sucks.
This doesn't add up to good data on that site.
. The difference here is I think the F'up is in the data (either the raw data your site is using or in how their mushing the data for their website).
No the data is NOT valid, we know that for sure.
One way or the other everything you see there should be taken with a few grains of salt.
As I said earlier, you must have some MAJOR interest in discrediting this information as you go on, and on, and on, and on, repeating the same nonsense endlessly. No matter how many ways I try to show you that it is clear that we have legitimate records even if they have the same start dates and job title due to the obvious pattern we saw for the Tempe records of ARCLIGHT, you repeat the same pattern of nonsense and denial over, and over, and over...
IMHO all zazona should do is make sure their procedures aren't the cause and if they aren't add to their FAQ that it looks like the DOL could have bizaare duplicate entries. What's the big deal?
If your reading comprehension were at least at 4th grade level, perhaps you'd know what an EXACT copy is. If you don't know what that means, then nothing I say will convince you otherwise. The database FAQ stated the database to be an EXACT duplicate of the DOL LCA database. It is presented as such, and as such it is making that declaration. They wouldn't want to be LIABLE for anything if it weren't true now would they...
See even you are finally admitting that the data could be bad.
I've said all along that might be a possibility, UNTIL it became apparent that it was more a function of whether or not the company was based in the US. As far as data errors, I had posted the FAQ on that for you a day or so ago..
You could have done this yesterday instead of ranting on and on scrambling for possible explanations. But for whatever reason you refused to even entertain the possibility that a government organization could have crappy data until cornered and forced to.
You ARE brain dead. I've just posted the proof that I ALREADY DID say that ANY errors are problems with the original DOL database. I've said that from square one, and I've never said otherwise. There WERE questions on this duplicate record business that we have gone and forth on, but ultimately I proved that it IS STANDARD PRACTICE FOR COMPANIES TO SUBMIT MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS FOR THE SAME START DATE.
Don't go blaiming me for your own intransigence. This should have been four posts, you're the one that made it two days.
You repeat the same lies over, and over, and over, and they still won't become true, they just become multiple lies. You have dragged this out for no reason other than disrupting this thread. Whatever meaningful discussion on this topic we had ended yesterday. You are using childish tactics in your attempt to portray this whole thing as a sham, and since your arguments lack merit you rant and rave and lie and obfuscuate and rant and lie some more.
Will you EVER simply give it a rest and go away? Again, you must have a SERIOUS interest in all of this to be so insistant. I have a good reason to fight my cause, as my future and possibly the future of my Nation depend on whether I succeed in bringing the truth out in this matter. What is YOUR agenda and whom do YOU serve?