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To: FormerLurker
Just for grins, and because election results are coming in slow, I took your "challenge", and I must say that apparently you only searched for info on one company. If you'll recall I'm the one that showed DCM was a foreign owned company. You popped out ABCOM from my big list and then declared that from "what you've seen so far" all the bad data companies are foreign. Well here's the results from the next three companies on that big list:
ANGELICA'S RECORD DISTRIBUTOR - http://2cds.com/show.php3?Which=795
APAR INFOTECH CORPORATION - http://www.apar.com/
ARCSIGHT INC - http://www.arcsight.com/about.htm

All American, all with suspicious duplicates. YOU LOSE!
247 posted on 11/05/2002 7:40:09 PM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
All American, all with suspicious duplicates. YOU LOSE!

Er, you might want to retract that statement..

ANGELICA'S RECORD DISTRIBUTOR

Here's a link to THEIR website, not the one that you posted..

ANGELICA'S RECORD DISTRIBUTOR

For one, it isn't clear if this IS a US corporation. It is a distributor of Spanish CD's that has locations in Phoenix, AZ, Arlington, TX, and Denver, CO. There is NO English on their website at all except for the name of the company.

There isn't any company info, so it is not clear where the company is actually based or who their parent company might be if any. I wouldn't say that it is a sure bet that this is a US company OR corporation. It IS clear that they've filed applications for two programmer/analysts and for two workers with the classification of "Occupations In Systems Analysis And Programming". It is quite possible that those are legitimate positions, and it is possible that the reason there are 2 identical records for each position is that they simply filed a separate application for each worker. Then again, it is ALSO possible that they only had 2 positions open and that they obtained the other 2 in order to make a little extra cash by selling them on the black market.

The above company does NOT prove your case.

Next, we have APAR INFOTECH CORPORATION

You didn't look over the website you linked obviously. Take a look at the link below..

APAR INFOTECH - Fact Sheet

From the link above, we find that the company was founded and incorporated in Singapore fueled by a "recruiment effort" in India.

It later set up shop in the US and expanded globally. I wouldn't call this a US company. It might now be headquartered in the US, but it wasn't founded in the US and was set up so as to provide Indian workers to any country that wanted them. Gee, this is getting REALLY interesting.

Finally, we have ARCSIGHT INC

Sure enough, it IS a US corporation. And sure enough there ARE records with the same start date. HOWEVER, if you look at the applications they filed for the TEMPE office, they have one application for 1 SOFTWARE ENGINEER each on the same date and TWO applications for 5 SOFTWARE ENGINEERS with the same date as the other applications. It becomes readily apparent that if they filed even ONE application with only ONE worker and ONE application with FIVE workers all with the same start date, that it is IS common practice to file separate applications with the same start date for the same location, salary, and job title.

You've just proven that your "bad data" theory is a "bad" assumption.

One WOULD wonder why ARCSIGHT is hiring all of those H1-B workers in Sunnyvale and Tempe when there are so many engineers with those skills who can't find work. Are they saying that they couldn't find any software engineers with the necessary skills in Silicon Valley or Tempe, AZ? Right.

And as far as DCM goes, they DID lie and call their positions "programmer analyst" where the work they describe on their site relates to software engineering. They DID file applications for 30 "programmer analyst" not only for their Austin development center but for each and every one of their sales offices thought the US. And they DID file 104 LCA applications resulting in over 3000 H1-B visas where they claim a workforce of 300.

250 posted on 11/05/2002 9:18:54 PM PST by FormerLurker
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