Prison Chaplain thinks sniper suspect (John Mohammed) is part of cult

©Finger Lakes Times 2002 ^ | November 01, 2002 | By: HARI RAO

[FormerLurker]

The Five Percenter ideology has been embraced by members of the modern rap music community, according to Kiley, Swedenburg and the hip-hop music site, www.africana.com.

But yet, young and old alike are being forced to swallow the myth of "diversity" and how it is of supreme importance to accept whatever actions "diverse" cultures decide they want to do....

[F-117A]

Bump!

[cake_crumb]

"This sounds like pure B.S. I heard this mentioned on FoxNews over the weekend then they dropped this story. Me thinks some folks with an interest in trying to obscure any connections to Islam ..."

Agreed, this IS puse B.S. It's no more true than the fiction of Moose "solving" the case. He did more to screw it up than to solve it, with all of his PC "we're looking for a middle aged white guy in a white van crap.

On another note, my mother heard this morning that Mohammad and Malvo were murdering ALL THOSE PEOPLE, just to terrorize Mohammad's ex-wife, whom SHE says threatened to kill her if she divorced him. Which is ALSO B.S. Not the threatening to kill his ex part, just the part about murdering 12 people just to scare her, WHEN SHE WAS ALREADY GONE.

This is Islamist extremism, and nothing else.

[cake_crumb]

"I don't know whay the chaplain would lie about his opinion as to what he thinks John Mohammed is a part of."

Who says he's lying? He COULD just be INCORRECT in his assumptions.

The AUTHOR of this tale is presenting PURE CONJECTURE as a FACT of the sniper case. THAT is B.S.

[wideawake]

Essentially the group believes that God is actually the Black Man - if you're a black man you are part of God. They refer to themselves and their peers as "Gods" and to black women as "Earths" and call themselves the "Nation of Gods and Earths". They refer to black ghettos as "Divineland" because that's where they, Gods, live.

They believe that there is a distinction between a "real" and a "mystical" religion. That is, if you believe God is a spirit, you are caught up in a fake, mystical religion. If you believe that your physical, black man's body is part of God and that you are physically God then your religion is "real" and you are, in the popular black phrase "keepin' it real".

They believe that Allah is a secret acronym which stands for Arm Leg Leg Arm Head - which, to their minds, clearly proves that the physical existence of the Black Man is God.

They say that of the total black population, 85% are ignorant of the truth, 10% know the truth but are afraid to embrace or teach it and that they, the remaining 5% know the truth - "know what time it is" - and are willing preach and live it - to "represent".

They believe that it is permissible to smoke, drink and eat pork, and that traditional Islamic restrictions on these behaviors are silly. Some of them are vegetarians, however and some shun all drugs except marijuana. There is a definite area of crossover between Rastafarians and 5%.

They have no organizational structure, since they are all Gods, and they have no form of organized worship, since they are themselves God. Some of them read the Bible or the Koran or both because they believe them to give insight on their own nature and destiny.

They believe that no laws apply to them, and that laws are the invention of white people who are actually animals with no divinity in them. White people are usually called "The Devil" or "snakes" by them as a collective and individual term. For example, if they wanted to say "white people like to watch 'Friends' on TV", they'd say "The Devil watches 'Friends' on TV".

The example I used above, of their parsing of the word "Allah" is a methodology they use constantly to read into things. They call it "breaking it down". They famously parse "his story" as "HIS story" meaning the Devil's version of events. They call the USA the "United Snakes of America" since the snake is the Devil. Rappers like Poor Righteous Teachers, devout 5%, consistently use this approach in their lyrics. One of their signature songs is the eponymous "Poor Righteous Teachers":

As the mind gets hot the brain gets like a heater.

Wise Poor Righteous Teacher.

Truth I'm gonna teach ya

>From knowledge is born

My word is bond

From dawn to dawn . . .

Check as the Wise get going

The thoughts are flowin'

Alone the marvelous god

is mackin' da microphone

I'm wearin' out n' tearin' it up

The snakes are jealous

Yeah but so what

Gimme some room some physical space

The capital "G"

Wise god is in da place

Teachin' the poor

Cuzz I'm the chief speaker

Turn it around

GET DOWN POOR RIGHTEOUS TEACHER!!!

I'ma level above all the brothers that disrespect

If your name is on my list believe it's checked

The king I quote I believe has made his mark

PRT...

Poor Righteous Teacher sparks

Light of the insight show the third eye

Ya tamper with god conceived a dis you Die!

The mic's in my hand

I'm provin' I can

I'm running the snakes up outta Divineland

As I get wise I watch ya get weaker

Eyes on the prize

[Culture Freedom]

And you're who?!

[Wise Intelligent]

Poor Righteous Teachers

[hispanarepublicana]

(did hispanarepublica change her handle? she's 'not found')

Alive and well here. That's hispanarepublicANa.

[wideawake]

5%ers believe that 95% of blacks are useless people with a "slave mentality". They are traitors to the Black Man and are, in some ways, worse than white people.

The boundaries between the Nation of Gods and Earths (5%), the Nation of Islam, the Temple of Moorish Science, and standard issue Islam are pretty blurry in black America.

Most strict Saudi-style Muslims who are black Americans used to be in one of these groups. Many of the people in these groups used to be strict Saudi-style Muslims. It's a continuum.

[Deb]

I think that either the deacon was misunderstood or the writer of this article has his head in a dark, smelly place.

What the deacon probably said was, legitmate converts to Islam change their first names to Mohammed, not their last names. The goofball Nation of Islam-type converts use the spelling "Muhammad" and only as a last name, as in Elijah Muhammad.

[TimPatriot]

"On another note, my mother heard this morning that Mohammad and Malvo were murdering ALL THOSE PEOPLE, just to terrorize Mohammad's ex-wife, whom SHE says threatened to kill her if she divorced him. Which is ALSO B.S. Not the threatening to kill his ex part, just the part about murdering 12 people just to scare her, WHEN SHE WAS ALREADY GONE."

I heard that one last night and I agree, that's totally absurd. Why he should have registered the Death Mobile on her birthday, if that were the case...to send her a message. :)

[wideawake]

Oh, and the third eye is the human pineal gland in the back of the brain. 5%ers believe that it is a third eye which allows them to see truth - blacks who are not 5%ers have a closed third eye. Whites have no third eye (although whites have pineal glands, so go figure).

[RedBloodedAmerican]

You beat probably 40,000 other freepers to it with that reply!

[blackie]

He Is A Muslim Extremist, Cult Member...Period !!

GWB Is The Man !!

Death To all Muslim Extremist's !!

Snuff Saddam, NOW !!

The RATS Are In Disarray...Eradicate The Rodents !!

Fire Democrats, Hire Republicans !!

The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Let's Roll !!

Molon Labe !!

[Siobhan]

The newest version of political correctness is to not insult anyone by failing to differentiate their particular form of Satanism.

Spot on.

[TexKat]

DC Homicide Investigator (Rod Wheeler)on Fox News just said that along the 95 corridor, there are several Jamaican groups. That this is organized crime and there are more people involved.Investigation continues

[cake_crumb]

Here's an article talking about a possible connection with the Islamist extremist group al Fuqr.

[TexKat]

Sniper Call? Suspect's Voice Heard on Tape ABCNEWS has obtained a tape of a call authorities believe sniper suspect John Lee Malvo made to police in Maryland during the hunt for the D.C.-area serial sniper.

"We are the people that are causing the killing in your area," the caller said to a police operator in Rockville, Md. "Look on the tarot card. It says, 'Call me God. Do not release the threat.'"

[American in Israel]

I don't care what name this denomination of Islam wants to call it self, it is just another Piece of Islam to me.

[TexKat]

National News

MORE INQUIRY
Spencer says task force incompetent

There have been more calls for another inquiry.

This time they come from Opposition leader Baldwin Spencer who has described the passport fiasco relating to John Allen Williams Muhammed as a “massive cover-up.”

According to Spencer, the truth can only be discovered if a “forensic investigation” is done dating back to the past 10 years.

“The task force appointed by Attorney-General Gertel Thom, which includes Attorney John Fuller, Attorney Ralph Francis, retired police officer Cosmos Marcelle and Father Arnold Francis of the Roman Catholic Church is not “independent,” he said.

“The individuals do not have the capabilities and competencies to be involved in such a matter. There is a massive cover up by the authorities not only as it relates to Muhammad but the entire issuance of Antigua & Barbuda passports and the illegal granting of passports,” he claimed.

Spencer noted with concern that this latest development could have serious international repercussions for genuine Antiguans & Barbudans, who would now be subjected to further scrutiny when travelling overseas.

“It is obvious that Muhammad was able to orchestrate a massive scheme over a period of time and my argument is that he could not have been able to do that without some help.”

Spencer’s remarks came while outside the Prime Minister’s Office and the Passport Office, as one of a group of protestors who picketed yesterday.

The protest was organised by self-styled Minister of Help Eugene Humphreys.

Humphreys is concerned that the passport fiasco has “embarrassed Antigua & Barbuda and its residents and will put the country in a situation of code red when citizens travel overseas. “I know it will have an effect on us especially those people who carry an Antigua & Barbuda passport. They will be more penalised as the United States authorities will be looking at us more critically.”

The protestors carried placards, which read, “Cancel bogus passport; Passport empty no name, Wanted Antiguan passport $$$$, and 72 hours is not independent,”

Meantime, the UPP is planning protest action for next Thursday, which according to party sources may eventually lead to a shutdown, of the country.

[Oztrich Boy]

To protect and dissassociate Farrakan and "true islam" from the actions of John Mohammad..