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MAJOR DEMOCRATIC DAMAGE (Why the "Memorial Service" will cost Mondale the election)
RealClearPolitics.com ^ | October 30, 2002 | John McIntyre

Posted on 10/30/2002 3:42:26 PM PST by Timesink

Wednesday October 30 2002
MAJOR DEMOCRATIC DAMAGE:
"TV networks and radio stations have been bombarded with angry calls. The Democrats greatly overplayed their hand and violated the tradition of "Minnesota nice." The only two Democrats who seemed to instinctively realize how overboard they had gone were Gore and Daschle. It is also being talked about around the water coolers at businesses and schools, and people across the ideological spectrum did not like it. In all, it gives Norm Coleman a fresh start.

State GOP chair reported late last night that Coleman brought in over $150,000 last night alone from angry moderates and conservatives across the country. I was also informed that the phones continue to "ring off the hook" at Coleman headquarters" This from a reader of ours in Minnesota and we have gotten many more emails exactly like this one. With only five full days between now and the election Mondale may not be able to recover from this fiasco. The sympathy vote for Wellstone may have been completely incinerated in 3 1/2 hours last night. JM 5:14 pm

MORE MINNESOTA: "I feel used. I feel violated and duped over the fact that that turned into nothing more than a political rally. Like in the case of Senator Lott flying all the way up here and being booed when he is supposed to be going to a memorial service. I think the Democrats should hang their head in shame." Independent Governor Jesse Ventura

"What a complete, total, absolute sham. The DFL clearly intends to exploit Wellstone's memory totally, completely and shamelessly for political gain. To them, Wellstone's death, apparently, was just another campaign event." Fmr. Rep. Vin Weber (R)

Last night has turned into a disaster for the Democrats. Powerline has delved deeper into the Star Tribune's poll showing Mondale up 8 and has found out that the poll sampled 51% DFL/Democratic supporters and only 36% Republican or GOP leaning supporters, a total of 11% more Democrats than their previous Wellstone/Coleman poll.   JM 4:49 pm


MINNESOTA:
My initial feeling that Coleman was going to be swamped by the sympathy vote for Wellstone is beginning to fade, and quickly. While it hasn't gotten huge play in the national media, the "memorial service" for the late Senator Wellstone and the other victims was so over the top, and distasteful, it has the real potential to backlash hard on the Democrats. Our friends at Powerline have been all over this story and they report that the "rally" is getting a lot of coverage in Minnesota.

"There is a lot of buzz this morning about the fact that television cameras showed Jesse Ventura and his wife, Terry, getting up and walking out on the Democrats' pep-fest at Williams Arena last night. I heard Ventura being interviewed on the radio this morning. He said that he found the Democrats' misuse for partisan ends not only of Wellstone's death, but of the families of the other victims of the crash, to be deeply offensive. He said that his wife was so shocked and offended by the Democrats' conduct that she was brought to tears, prompting their walkout."

When NPR and William Saletan at Slate also characterize the event as more a political pep rally rather than a memorial service it is clear it isn't just Republicans who think the Democrats went too far. Not to mention I don't take the recent poll from the Star Tribune showing Mondale up 8 as terrible news for Coleman. That poll of 47%-39% may very well be the high water mark for Mondale from here on out. It's reasonable to assume that the sympathy factor is going to be at its peak immediately following the tragedy. Furthermore a poll done by the NRSC, the same time as the Star's poll, had Mondale up only two points, with the Star Tribune's polls long time poll bias for Dems that puts Mondale up 5 points averaging the two polls. The clear politicization of Wellstone's death by the Democrats last night is not going to play well among the average Minnesotan and it will definitely serve to energize Coleman's base. Expect that five point gap to close.

The bottom line is I am close to doing a complete 180 on this race. I think the offensive nature of the "memorial service" last night has put this seat right back into play. And the trump card in Coleman's hand are all those absentee ballots that can not legally be counted for Mondale. This can very easily be a potential 2%-5% boost for Coleman and if he can get this race close in the polls, which I suspect now he will, that absentee difference will be enough to give him the win. The Dems lawsuit to get those Wellstone votes counted for Mondale shows just how seriously the Democrats think those absentee ballots might be.

If Coleman can run a positive, mistake-free, proactive campaign these next few days (and there's no reason to think he can't) these polls will close and this will be a nail-biter. With the absentee ballot edge I think Coleman now will win. But, hey, this is a very fluid situation and Coleman's got to close the poll numbers. I have to give credit to Hugh Hewitt and Ramesh Ponnuru who dismissed the conventional wisdom, including my own, that Coleman couldn't win. JM 1:02 pm       Comments



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: democraticmeltdown; minnesota; normcoleman; senate; waltermondale
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Say goodnight, Gracie.
1 posted on 10/30/2002 3:42:26 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Republicans need to keep the passion alive. The Rats have (again) shown their true colors. It is now the party of Clinton. May the "damage" be permanent...
2 posted on 10/30/2002 3:48:05 PM PST by eureka!
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To: Timesink
And, if Coleman wins, the Governor may simply appoint him to finish the remainder of Wellstone's term. The GOP won't have to wait for Talent in Missouri to gain a majority...
3 posted on 10/30/2002 3:49:21 PM PST by adingdangdoo
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To: Timesink
Daschle looked absolutely stricken last night. He didn't smile, in fact he was very somber the whole evening. I don't know if it was from grief or the realization that perhaps his majority leader position was going to be threatened by the whole spectacle.
4 posted on 10/30/2002 3:51:11 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Timesink
What the Democrats did was politically stupid. It may just energize Republican voters across the country enough to give the GOP back the Senate. If any one deserves thanks for making it happen, its Bubba and Terry McAwful!
5 posted on 10/30/2002 3:51:13 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: Timesink
Whoever votes for Mondale is without honor. If the state of Minnesota elects him, the entire state is disgraced.
6 posted on 10/30/2002 3:51:25 PM PST by djpg
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To: eureka!
Interesting. It seems like Mondale had this in the bag. All he had to do was make a few solemn statements, duck all debates, and avoid making any public appearances until after the election.

7 posted on 10/30/2002 3:53:39 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Timesink
There once was a service for Wellstone
That when it got going got real "gone"
The senator's sons
The son of a guns,
Just yoked Walter M. with a millstone.

Ok, so the rhyme is strained, but not much rhymes with Wellstone. Hailstone. Hell's tone. Bell tone. Mail phone. parsy the hurried.
8 posted on 10/30/2002 3:54:17 PM PST by parsifal
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To: Timesink
I hope people also remember the look of utter elation on the faces of Bill and Hillary.
9 posted on 10/30/2002 3:54:27 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: ambrose
The greatest gift for a Republican majority in America has been, bless his dear evil black heart, Bubba!
10 posted on 10/30/2002 3:55:33 PM PST by goldstategop
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While it hasn't gotten huge play in the national media, the "memorial service" for the late Senator Wellstone and the other victims was so over the top, and distasteful, it has the real potential to backlash hard on the Democrats.

I watched Peter Jennings tonight, and I have to admit that ABC was balanced in its coverage, which means that it was SO over the top that they couldn't ignore that angle.

11 posted on 10/30/2002 3:55:42 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: ambrose
Re#7 Yep. But the Rats weren't happy with that. They wanted to nationalize the death. And they did. Just not the way they wanted. ;^)
12 posted on 10/30/2002 3:55:46 PM PST by eureka!
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To: goldstategop
And, to think that it was Dims whining about the photos of W on Air Force One, on 9-11.
13 posted on 10/30/2002 3:55:47 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Timesink
I watched some of that last night and I could not believe it. I can't imagine anything worse than having the media cry Republicans has best stay off the campaign trail and show respect or else and then having the Democrats do this.

I fully expected them to do lets win one for the gipper... but this was way over the top. think the plan was to do a win one for the gipper. But they did not know how to do it. I thought Harken looked and acted like an a$$. I can't imagine this act playing in Iowa either.

And the Wellstone Son standing on Dad's grave leading the cheers had all the humanity of a NATZI get together to remember the good old days at the gas chamber.


14 posted on 10/30/2002 3:55:59 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Paul Atreides
Yeah these people turn Democratic gold to lead wherever they show up. Its absolutely amazing!
15 posted on 10/30/2002 3:56:26 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: Timesink
bump
16 posted on 10/30/2002 3:58:39 PM PST by JPJones
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To: Timesink
Interesting info about the poll especially....
17 posted on 10/30/2002 3:58:40 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: goldstategop
I'm not discounting the Wellstone sons' part in all of this, but it has the smell of Clinton/Carville/McAuliffe all over it.
18 posted on 10/30/2002 3:59:22 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
I doubt the overnight polling numbers look good for Mondale right now.

The Democrats blew the sympathy vote away, and now they may have to deal with the "backlash vote."

19 posted on 10/30/2002 4:01:51 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Timesink
I think that this is premature. Some of the Republicans that I've seen on TV today are desparately trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They are basically saying "No big deal".

Can you believe these idiots? Even CNN and MSNBC have been somewhat critical but these idiot Republicans don't take advantage?

God, I sometimes wonder why in the world I associate myself with them.
20 posted on 10/30/2002 4:02:01 PM PST by jackbill
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