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MAJOR DEMOCRATIC DAMAGE (Why the "Memorial Service" will cost Mondale the election)
RealClearPolitics.com ^ | October 30, 2002 | John McIntyre

Posted on 10/30/2002 3:42:26 PM PST by Timesink

Wednesday October 30 2002
MAJOR DEMOCRATIC DAMAGE:
"TV networks and radio stations have been bombarded with angry calls. The Democrats greatly overplayed their hand and violated the tradition of "Minnesota nice." The only two Democrats who seemed to instinctively realize how overboard they had gone were Gore and Daschle. It is also being talked about around the water coolers at businesses and schools, and people across the ideological spectrum did not like it. In all, it gives Norm Coleman a fresh start.

State GOP chair reported late last night that Coleman brought in over $150,000 last night alone from angry moderates and conservatives across the country. I was also informed that the phones continue to "ring off the hook" at Coleman headquarters" This from a reader of ours in Minnesota and we have gotten many more emails exactly like this one. With only five full days between now and the election Mondale may not be able to recover from this fiasco. The sympathy vote for Wellstone may have been completely incinerated in 3 1/2 hours last night. JM 5:14 pm

MORE MINNESOTA: "I feel used. I feel violated and duped over the fact that that turned into nothing more than a political rally. Like in the case of Senator Lott flying all the way up here and being booed when he is supposed to be going to a memorial service. I think the Democrats should hang their head in shame." Independent Governor Jesse Ventura

"What a complete, total, absolute sham. The DFL clearly intends to exploit Wellstone's memory totally, completely and shamelessly for political gain. To them, Wellstone's death, apparently, was just another campaign event." Fmr. Rep. Vin Weber (R)

Last night has turned into a disaster for the Democrats. Powerline has delved deeper into the Star Tribune's poll showing Mondale up 8 and has found out that the poll sampled 51% DFL/Democratic supporters and only 36% Republican or GOP leaning supporters, a total of 11% more Democrats than their previous Wellstone/Coleman poll.   JM 4:49 pm


MINNESOTA:
My initial feeling that Coleman was going to be swamped by the sympathy vote for Wellstone is beginning to fade, and quickly. While it hasn't gotten huge play in the national media, the "memorial service" for the late Senator Wellstone and the other victims was so over the top, and distasteful, it has the real potential to backlash hard on the Democrats. Our friends at Powerline have been all over this story and they report that the "rally" is getting a lot of coverage in Minnesota.

"There is a lot of buzz this morning about the fact that television cameras showed Jesse Ventura and his wife, Terry, getting up and walking out on the Democrats' pep-fest at Williams Arena last night. I heard Ventura being interviewed on the radio this morning. He said that he found the Democrats' misuse for partisan ends not only of Wellstone's death, but of the families of the other victims of the crash, to be deeply offensive. He said that his wife was so shocked and offended by the Democrats' conduct that she was brought to tears, prompting their walkout."

When NPR and William Saletan at Slate also characterize the event as more a political pep rally rather than a memorial service it is clear it isn't just Republicans who think the Democrats went too far. Not to mention I don't take the recent poll from the Star Tribune showing Mondale up 8 as terrible news for Coleman. That poll of 47%-39% may very well be the high water mark for Mondale from here on out. It's reasonable to assume that the sympathy factor is going to be at its peak immediately following the tragedy. Furthermore a poll done by the NRSC, the same time as the Star's poll, had Mondale up only two points, with the Star Tribune's polls long time poll bias for Dems that puts Mondale up 5 points averaging the two polls. The clear politicization of Wellstone's death by the Democrats last night is not going to play well among the average Minnesotan and it will definitely serve to energize Coleman's base. Expect that five point gap to close.

The bottom line is I am close to doing a complete 180 on this race. I think the offensive nature of the "memorial service" last night has put this seat right back into play. And the trump card in Coleman's hand are all those absentee ballots that can not legally be counted for Mondale. This can very easily be a potential 2%-5% boost for Coleman and if he can get this race close in the polls, which I suspect now he will, that absentee difference will be enough to give him the win. The Dems lawsuit to get those Wellstone votes counted for Mondale shows just how seriously the Democrats think those absentee ballots might be.

If Coleman can run a positive, mistake-free, proactive campaign these next few days (and there's no reason to think he can't) these polls will close and this will be a nail-biter. With the absentee ballot edge I think Coleman now will win. But, hey, this is a very fluid situation and Coleman's got to close the poll numbers. I have to give credit to Hugh Hewitt and Ramesh Ponnuru who dismissed the conventional wisdom, including my own, that Coleman couldn't win. JM 1:02 pm       Comments



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: democraticmeltdown; minnesota; normcoleman; senate; waltermondale
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To: William McKinley
"Last night was Paul Wellstone's legacy, and it put the progressive liberalism of the Democrat party into clear focus, and the people are repulsed"

That was such a great statement, it bears repeating!
141 posted on 10/30/2002 10:30:01 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: ladyinred
I'm not surprised the "memorial" did little to sway many Dems opinion of their party. Why would it? If they could stand by a President getting hummers in the Oval Office and lying about it under oath, last night was no big deal.

What I'm salivating over are Independents. As a Minnesotan, I can tell you -- the Independents up here truly are independent. They're Jesse Ventura, take-no-crap kind of people. What they saw last night disgusted them. And it would be just like them to flip the Dems one giant, collective bird by pulling the lever for Coleman once they step inside the voting booth.
142 posted on 10/30/2002 10:30:47 PM PST by Gunder
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To: Rokke
Yeah, I gotta say, I've been mightily impressed with what the networks have done with this story. It's been at or near the top of most broadcasts. And there hasn't been much equivocating going on. They're calling the memorial service what it really was -- a rally for leftists.
143 posted on 10/30/2002 10:33:44 PM PST by Gunder
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To: Gunder
Whose Mom isn't from Minnesota? :)
144 posted on 10/30/2002 10:35:57 PM PST by DennisR
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To: kcar
Why don't you check with "Registered" - he's good at doing that sort of stuff.
145 posted on 10/30/2002 10:40:10 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: Paul Atreides
Smiling Bill... just like after Commerce secretary Ron Brown's service (remember how happy Klintoon was until an unexpected camera wiped that $hit-eating grin off his face?

Guess Billy-boy gets a kick out of other's death & missery.

Trajan88

147 posted on 10/30/2002 10:45:17 PM PST by Trajan88
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To: ladyinred
"Seminar callers" is what Rush calls them. They have the same talking point, and they call all the talk shows and spout their stuff. They pay these people to make these calls. It's one of the big differences. The repubs trust us to be active and do the calling on our own. The dems don't trust their people to do what they want (because it's ususally in bad taste), so they have to PAY people to do it.

I've seen several articles on FR stating that the major media is all over this story - and it's all negative.
148 posted on 10/30/2002 11:19:22 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: Saundra Duffy
"they're so dimented, they didn't even realize what they were doing"

There is no way they didn't know what they were doing. They planned this event and they staged it as a rally - to get the dems out to vote because they are losing BADLY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

Either Sean or Rush said that if the dems lose this election, McAwful is GONE!! This type of crass event has his fingerprints all over it.
149 posted on 10/30/2002 11:26:55 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: ladyinred
You mentioned that the national media didn't even mention this, but today Pat Buchanan was all over it, he kept bringing it up all day & made a huge deal of it & really cut clinton & mondale down big time. hopefully, that will help.
150 posted on 10/30/2002 11:30:45 PM PST by blondee123
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To: Common Tator
And the Wellstone Son standing on Dad's grave leading the cheers had all the humanity of a NATZI get together to remember the good old days at the gas chamber.

Precisely. I was listening to sound bytes and it was indistinguishable in tone and attitude from a NSDAP rally in Munich in 1933.

151 posted on 10/31/2002 12:07:52 AM PST by Erasmus
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To: Timesink
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152 posted on 10/31/2002 7:01:06 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: goldstategop
They have no shame.

What the Democrats did was politically stupid. It may just energize Republican voters across the country enough to give the GOP back the Senate. If any one deserves thanks for making it happen, its Bubba and Terry McAwful!

153 posted on 10/31/2002 7:28:33 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Timesink
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154 posted on 10/31/2002 7:40:34 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Argus
To the point and on the money:

What I saw of that Nuremberg Rally in Minnesota felt like nothing so much as the cast of THE WEST WING shaking their Emmys in each other's faces. The liberals are so deep into their own bubble of delusion that they forgot that you have to win the election before you celebrate.

155 posted on 10/31/2002 8:17:26 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: longtermmemmory
Hard to believe anyone can "cheapen" death, but that's what the democrats did...

The death of Welstone is now the democrat party talking point. Every slimy one of them is doing the "win for welstone" shuffle.

156 posted on 10/31/2002 8:20:08 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Timesink
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157 posted on 10/31/2002 8:44:14 AM PST by GOPJ
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158 posted on 10/31/2002 8:44:28 AM PST by GOPJ
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159 posted on 10/31/2002 8:51:23 AM PST by GOPJ
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160 posted on 10/31/2002 9:02:18 AM PST by GOPJ
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