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Republicans decry service as partisan [LOTT WALKED OUT!!]
Star Tribune Star Tribune ^ | 10/30/02 | Kavita Kumar, Dane Smith and Patricia Lopez

Posted on 10/29/2002 11:42:30 PM PST by M. Thatcher

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:37:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Though it was billed as a memorial service, many irate viewers and Republican leaders said the gathering for U.S. Sen. Paul Wellstone and five others degenerated at times into a blatant political rally.

"What a complete, total, absolute sham," said Vin Weber, a former U.S. representative from Minnesota. "The DFL clearly intends to exploit Wellstone's memory totally, completely and shamelessly for political gain. To them, Wellstone's death, apparently, was just another campaign event."


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To: M. Thatcher
I am so disillusioned with two of my political heroes. First, I read about Jimmy Carter riding away from church in Plains in a Suburban. Everyone knows SUVs, like guns, are evil, in and of themselves. You have to be a greedy, environmental despoiler to use one of these gas guzzlers. It really shook me when the Nobel Prize winner was seen in one. Then, last night, at the Paul Wellstone "Memorial" service, it was pointed out that a staffer/driver drove Paul around Minnesota in an SUV. Say it ain't so, Joe. My faith in politicians is rocked. Someone please tell me that politicos of the liberal leaning are not hypocritical when it comes to the environment. I badly need reassurance.
161 posted on 10/30/2002 5:47:16 AM PST by Re-electNobody
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To: M. Thatcher
"Many Republicans said the tone of the service was inappropriate, while other observers said it was a fitting tribute to a senator who dedicated his life to championing many Democratic issues."

It was a fitting tribute, a crass memorial for a crass politician.

162 posted on 10/30/2002 5:49:06 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Wondervixen
Ever since the first news of the plane crash, and the reactions of Democratic leadership, I have the definite intuition that Wellstone was murdered by the Demo organization.

The funeral and aftermath is too close to the same intuitive feeling of a mafia hit portrayed in movie after movie and the following funeral and wake.

The same sentiment occurred with Carnahan. There was a contrived, overly attentive dedication by people who wouldn't lift a finger if their own spouse died, to eulogize the deceased during public opportunities when the focus or topic was elsewhere.

It was as though some power figure, known by them were in attendance, not obvious to anybody else, and they immediately pretended/feigned allegiance by eulogizing the dead,...as though they were coconspirators in a murder and then pretended they were friends of the family.

It nicely explains why Cheney was rebuffed from attending. It also nicely explains the intuitive laughter and gaity of Bill and Hillary at the 'funeral' reception---political rally. Sortof like dancing on the grave of the deceased to make room for another appointee some power figure on top decided upon.

In no way is this a funeral. It's some occultic power worship dancing on the grave of perhaps somebody they felt they tossed out of their circle and now feel glee if they can get his own son to rebel as well.

IMHO, the only social phenomenon I associate the Democrat's behavior is akin to a cosa nostra funeral of somebody who had been targeted to be murdered and caring for the family afterwards.

163 posted on 10/30/2002 5:51:05 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: anatolfz; FourteenthProfile
Scrofula was a tubercular infection of the lymph glands in the neck and throat. Nasty, especially when the sores broke through to the surface and wept, hence the use of "scrofulous" to describe something with an ugly, diseased, irregular, pitted surface. It could be fatal - a cousin of mine died of it in the 1880s. Isoniazid and the other powerful anti-tubercular drugs have mostly put an end to this, and I don't imagine there are very many doctors in this country who have ever seen a case.

Scrofula was also known as the "King's Evil", and the sovereigns of England were believed to have a special divinely-granted power to cure it by the laying on of hands, received with their anointing at their coronation. Samuel Johnson suffered from it in his youth, and was sent to Queen Anne to be "touched for the Evil." (Apparently it worked.) Subjects (patients?) who were touched by the sovereign received a special piece of "touch money" that most folks wore on a ribbon around their neck. The practice was discontinued by the Hanoverians (another "proof" that they weren't the rightful kings? (Jacobite grin) - - but James (the "Old Pretender") and his sons Charles ("Bonnie Prince Charlie") and Henry (Cardinal York) continued the practice in exile until their deaths.

Ain't history fun?

Soliloquy Of The Spanish Cloister

Robert Browning

I.

Gr-r-r---there go, my heart's abhorrence!
Water your damned flower-pots, do!
If hate killed men, Brother Lawrence,
God's blood, would not mine kill you!
What? your myrtle-bush wants trimming?
Oh, that rose has prior claims---
Needs its leaden vase filled brimming?
Hell dry you up with its flames!

II.

At the meal we sit together:
Salve tibi! I must hear
Wise talk of the kind of weather,
Sort of season, time of year:
Not a plenteous cork-crop: scarcely
Dare we hope oak-galls, I doubt:
What's the Latin name for ``parsley''?
What's the Greek name for Swine's Snout?

III.

Whew! We'll have our platter burnished,
Laid with care on our own shelf!
With a fire-new spoon we're furnished,
And a goblet for ourself,
Rinsed like something sacrificial
Ere 'tis fit to touch our chaps---
Marked with L. for our initial!
(He-he! There his lily snaps!)

IV.

_Saint_, forsooth! While brown Dolores
Squats outside the Convent bank
With Sanchicha, telling stories,
Steeping tresses in the tank,
Blue-black, lustrous, thick like horsehairs,
---Can't I see his dead eye glow,
Bright as 'twere a Barbary corsair's?
(That is, if he'd let it show!)

V.

When he finishes refection,
Knife and fork he never lays
Cross-wise, to my recollection,
As do I, in Jesu's praise.
I the Trinity illustrate,
Drinking watered orange-pulp---
In three sips the Arian frustrate;
While he drains his at one gulp.

VI.

Oh, those melons? If he's able
We're to have a feast! so nice!
One goes to the Abbot's table,
All of us get each a slice.
How go on your flowers? None double
Not one fruit-sort can you spy?
Strange!---And I, too, at such trouble,
Keep them close-nipped on the sly!

VII.

There's a great text in Galatians,
Once you trip on it, entails
Twenty-nine distinct damnations,
One sure, if another fails:
If I trip him just a-dying,
Sure of heaven as sure can be,
Spin him round and send him flying
Off to hell, a Manichee?

VIII.

Or, my scrofulous French novel
On grey paper with blunt type!
Simply glance at it, you grovel
Hand and foot in Belial's gripe:
If I double down its pages
At the woeful sixteenth print,
When he gathers his greengages,
Ope a sieve and slip it in't?

IX.

Or, there's Satan!---one might venture
Pledge one's soul to him, yet leave
Such a flaw in the indenture
As he'd miss till, past retrieve,
Blasted lay that rose-acacia
We're so proud of! Hy, Zy, Hine ...
'St, there's Vespers! Plena grati
Ave, Virgo! Gr-r-r---you swine!

164 posted on 10/30/2002 5:57:16 AM PST by AnAmericanMother
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To: ambrose
"I am a lot more impressed by Ventura walking out than Lott... "

Me, too. That action by the Venturas may actually help. He's a funny guy, sometimes infuriating, sometimes right on the money. I do hope this funeral turns off the independents, and they are the ones who may be influenced by the Venturas walkout. Democrats need independent votes to win any election just like Republicans do.

BTW, what else did anybody expect of Democrats, particularly the really lefty wing? They use EVERYTHING to their advantage, all the time and feel perfectly justified in doing so (just like telling any lie if it will work). It's just the hard left in action. This funeral was never going to be anything else than just what it was.

165 posted on 10/30/2002 5:58:20 AM PST by Irene Adler
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To: Gracey
"You're out of your friggin mind. NO WAY!!!!!!!! Republicans are polite whimps."

It's too bad, that doing the right thing and behaving maturely makes one a "whimp". Unfortunately, that is the direction in which our liberal society has lead us.
166 posted on 10/30/2002 5:59:21 AM PST by OldBlondBabe
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To: Gracey
"You're out of your friggin mind. NO WAY!!!!!!!! Republicans are polite whimps."

It's too bad, that doing the right thing and behaving maturely makes one a "whimp". Unfortunately, that is the direction in which our liberal society has lead us.
167 posted on 10/30/2002 5:59:25 AM PST by OldBlondBabe
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To: Godebert
This whole event seems to lack dignity and serious respect for the whole planeload of deceased! It seems more like a political orgy or part of a cult frenzied worship service. I am sorry for Wellstone's memory. I can see that a little of championing the kind of person and politician he was would have been healthy. But the focus on Dem stars and begging for votes, too tacky. I venture a guess that some of these faces enjoying the limelight were not even some of Wellstone's favorite people....just opportunists.
168 posted on 10/30/2002 6:01:25 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Fracas
You asked if Carnahan were there. No,
she was busy campaigning while Talent
suspended his, to mourn the sudden
death of his 90 yr. old father.
169 posted on 10/30/2002 6:02:26 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: kcvl
Thanks for the picture of Ventura. I don't care what anybody says, I believe he is a decent human being. And that picture proves me right!
170 posted on 10/30/2002 6:02:50 AM PST by JudyB1938
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To: All; M. Thatcher
These are Drudge's comments from last night....


'Win for Paul! For Paul! For Paul'...Cheering, handshaking, speechifying, yelling, clapping, stomping, laughing and shouting -- there's never been a memorial service like it... Instead of eulogies, stemwinders. Instead of pray for his soul, get out the vote. Instead of weeping, cheering. Welcome to bigtime politics 2002, where a memorial service for a tragically killed senator becomes a raucous DNC rally. All that was missing was the balloon drop...
171 posted on 10/30/2002 6:03:00 AM PST by Dallas
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To: William McKinley
"Wellstone was a sincere guy, but his was a sincerity of leftism....Paul Wellstone would have loved what he saw last night."

You have it exactly right, Bill. To a real leftist, there is NOTHING that is not exploitable for the cause.

172 posted on 10/30/2002 6:04:26 AM PST by Irene Adler
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Norm Coleman was actually there. Security had to move him out of a section because it was "unfriendly." Apparently they couldn't find any section for him to sit it. This was widely reported so the public should know that he was there but never appeared on television. This is fantastic as it appears that Coleman is the only one not trying to exploit Wellstone's death for his own political advantage.

This is all true except that most Minnesotans do not know that Coleman was there or had to be moved. The local media is papering over this disaster for the RATS.

173 posted on 10/30/2002 6:04:44 AM PST by mwl1
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To: M. Thatcher
The top-of-the-hour-news on radio sound bites are insinuating in their broadcasts that the Republicans are just being whiny. I hate these sound bites, because this is the ONLY news many people ever receive.
174 posted on 10/30/2002 6:06:42 AM PST by Alissa
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To: All
Said Weber: "I'm urging all my Republican friends to demand equal time from the stations since this was NOT a memorial to Paul Wellstone. It was just a political event."

Absolutely........

175 posted on 10/30/2002 6:06:51 AM PST by Dallas
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To: anniegetyourgun
I am also impressed with Ventura on this one. I didn't think he had enough brain cells to walk out. His wife must have prompted him.

I never thought I'd live to see the day that Ventura was accused of having taste.

176 posted on 10/30/2002 6:09:34 AM PST by iconoclast
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To: redlipstick
Ping
177 posted on 10/30/2002 6:10:04 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Thane_Banquo
Has the television media been covering this at all?

Even the early news show on CNN thought it was tasteless.

178 posted on 10/30/2002 6:11:29 AM PST by iconoclast
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To: Wondervixen
Scenario:

Plane loses altitude. As it approaches the trees, the wings and tail section get torn off. As the cabin and cockpit come to a stop, a fiery blaze erupts inside the cabin which kills all on board, including Senator Wellstone (who was lagging in the polls). Before the bodies are removed from the plane Mondale indicates that he is ready to pick up where his buddy Paul quit. The memorial service for Wellstone is all about the democratic party and not about the repose of the soul of Paul Wellstone!

One major thing to keep in mind in this scenario is that the wings on a BeechCraft holds the fuel bladders. They were ripped off the fuselage before it came to a stop and erupted in flames? What exploded inside the cabin? Paul's Bic lighter?

179 posted on 10/30/2002 6:11:35 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: M. Thatcher
But don't be surprised is sometimes Wednesday Trent doesn't apologize for walking out. He will say he was offended by ONE speaker and regrets the way he "tarnished" the memory of this "good senator" and "my friend." One can always count on Trent to walk out. Also, did the Venturas walk out first? Was Trent merely following their lead?
180 posted on 10/30/2002 6:12:56 AM PST by Theodore R.
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