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To: HoweverComma
Actually, you CAN. You just decide from the beginning that you're not going to give your airtime, bandwidth, or your credibility over to folks who are white supremacists and neo-Nazis (or paleo-Nazis).

LOL! Are we still talking about American Patrol? Do you really think that's what they're really all about?

125 posted on 10/29/2002 10:35:56 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Show me the articles! I haven't seen them on American Patrol - show them to me. And, even so, the moderators can pull those specific articles and not just simply ban in whole content from one of the best immigration reform activist sites on the Internet.

Check out posts #116 and #122 - looks like there is a bigger personal issue with Glenn Spencer.

By the way - Mexican is not a race, it is a nationality. One who is bigoted against Mexicans is not necessarily a racist.

Quit splitting hairs. My wife was called a lot of slurs as a kid, and still catches some bigotry. She doesn't dwell on it, but it is a reality.

For example, many in the reconquista rebel community immediately tar someone as a racist if they ever used the term 'Wetback'. However, 'wetback' does not refer to a race, or even a nationality, it refers to people who have illegaly crossed the southern border. But, for their political correctness, they don't understand this. And that is what I'm afraid is occuring here.

Wetback is a derogatory. You can just call them an illegal alien and leave it at that, if you want to not give your enemies the verbal hammer to hit you with.

128 posted on 10/29/2002 10:43:06 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Joe Hadenuf
LOL! Are we still talking about American Patrol? Do you really think that's what they're really all about?

Quit trying to spin away from the issue, and debate honestly. You're smart enough to understand what the poster is talking about here. Apparently Glenn Spencer, of his own free will, associated with Willis Carto. As a result, JimRob, of his own free will, is choosing not to associate with Glenn Spencer. Freedom of association. Do YOU not have a problem associating with the likes of Willis Carto? If you do not, what does that say about you, and what kind of ammo does that give your opponents to brand you as a bigot and take the debate away from you?

The choice is up to AP. They are right about a lot of issues. But can stay a small clique and thunder about immigration policy (or lack thereof), or they can toss aside the likes of Carto and reach a wider audience, thereby increasing the chances of actually making a political impact. The choice is AP's - and yours.

129 posted on 10/29/2002 10:48:55 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Actually, you CAN. You just decide from the beginning that you're not going to give your airtime, bandwidth, or your credibility over to folks who are white supremacists and neo-Nazis (or paleo-Nazis).

LOL!

I fail to see what's so funny about that. Michael Savage doesn't have the sorts of wingnuts on his show that Glenn Spencer has on his radio show and website. And Michael Savage gets taken a lot more seriously than Glenn Spencer. I submit that this isn't a coincidence.

Are we still talking about American Patrol?

Yes. And you're still not getting the point. You're either not bothering to pay attention, or you really don't WANT to get the point. Which one is it?

Do you really think that's what they're really all about?

I don't know what, exactly, they wish to do. I can only judge them by what they actually accomplish. And most of their accomplishments, to date, are giving airtime and bandwidth to the white supremacist community.

Glenn needs to get a LOT more discerning as to who he hands his megaphone to. There's a lot of people who have important and useful things to say about immigration who don't have the added baggage of being known racist Clymers.

132 posted on 10/29/2002 10:54:14 AM PST by HoweverComma
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Amazing. God forbid some rancher try to keep the legions of armed illegal invaders from overrunning his land.
154 posted on 10/29/2002 11:37:31 AM PST by dinodino
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