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Civilians patrol border (Arizona)
The Tucson Citizen ^
| Oct. 28, 2002
| SUSAN CARROLL
Posted on 10/28/2002 5:39:36 AM PST by madfly
Edited on 05/07/2004 5:37:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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A satellite cell phone in one hand and a global-positioning satellite unit in the other, Glenn Spencer of the American Border Patrol poses at the group's headquarters in Sierra Vista. In the background is an antenna that connects headquarters to the Internet.
(Excerpt) Read more at tucsoncitizen.com ...
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: azborderpatrol; deportation; glennspencer; illegalimmigrants; ins; isabelgarcia
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To: madfly
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Law enforcement agencies do not appreciate the ultimatum."Well boo (bleep)ing hoo! We hire these border patrol types to do a job, and all we hear from them is that illegal infiltrators get to chase them around in our own country with gunfire.
If they can't or won't do the job, they can just flip hamburgers for a living and we'll get the job done some other way.
They need to remember just who they're working for! We don't "appreciate" their not appreciating our ultimatum, either. (/rant)
To: madfly
Where is it written that Americans are to give up their rights to protect their lives and property just because the local, state and fed gov't created agencies to "protect the public" then fail to do so?
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posted on
10/28/2002 6:18:37 AM PST
by
aeronca
To: madfly
Maybe these citizen border patrol people should receive deputy status?! They might FINALLY give a little backbone to the cowardly INS!
To: Sabertooth; madfly
The American Border Patrol and Ranch Rescue are upsetting the status quo and are going to throw a monkey-wrench into the underground economy.
How long is the bribe money going to continue to roll in from the smugglers, trafficking in drugs and illegal aliens, if their shipments can't be guaranteed unmolested entrance?
Don't these do-gooders know they're ruining a good thing?
>sarcasm<
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posted on
10/28/2002 6:36:15 AM PST
by
4Freedom
To: madfly
Our American ancestors did just fine without the protection of da law, in fact they were da law west of the pecos. Looks like they still are.
To: madfly
Bump & Index.
Sounds like the "gov't workers" are afraid of loosing their jobs.
To: madfly
I especially liked this part:
"The Nature Conservancy, which owns the land where Ranch Rescue confiscated the marijuana, promptly asked the group to leave after the marijuana seizure..."
Of course!
Marijuana is just another organicly produced little bit of nature's bounty.
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posted on
10/28/2002 6:40:07 AM PST
by
norton
To: HiJinx
these guys are doing what they feel is right Now you know this was written by a liberal.
Logical people do not "feel" that something is right or wrong. They look at the situation vs a rule set and see if it complies to the rule set or not.
The people that break our immigration laws, despite our empathy for their very human desire to get a better life, are criminals.
People who cannot handle this fact should work to change the immigration laws - increase the numbers of legal immigration, or pass "migrant worker" exceptions. Every person that comes in should be accounted for through legal processing. Anyone going around this legal process is a criminal.
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posted on
10/28/2002 6:43:03 AM PST
by
MrB
To: madfly
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posted on
10/28/2002 6:48:28 AM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: Marine Inspector
ping
(thought you might be interested)
To: aeronca
Where is it written that Americans are to give up their rights to protect their lives and property just because the local, state and fed gov't created agencies to "protect the public" then fail to do so? These Americans are protecting not only their own lives and property but the lives and property of the Nation, by doing a job left by many well paid personnel.
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posted on
10/28/2002 7:12:44 AM PST
by
madfly
To: madfly
THE ELECTION IS IN 8 DAYS
AND I CAN'T VOTE.
PLEASE, HELP TAKE BACK THE SENATE.
IT'S FOR THE PUPPIES!
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A resource for conservatives who want a Republican majority in the Senate
To: MrB
MrB, Miss Isabel disagrees with you.
Isabel Garcia
Aztlan Witch
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posted on
10/28/2002 7:18:06 AM PST
by
madfly
To: 4Freedom
bttt
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posted on
10/28/2002 7:22:32 AM PST
by
madfly
To: undergroundwarrior
Do you not suspect that one of the reasons so little is done to stop illegals and drug smuggling is because the profits are shared with law enforcement? Everyone of these so called agents should resign. They sure as hell are not doing us any good. With the exception of little Elian of course.
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posted on
10/28/2002 7:26:02 AM PST
by
willyone
To: madfly
"We understand the ranchers are frustrated" with immigrants and drug smugglers crossing their lands, said Kyle Barnette, a U.S. Customs associate special agent in charge in Arizona. "However, it's not an environment that novices or amateurs should be meddling in. Right !! That's why the gov't should get the hell out of there !!
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posted on
10/28/2002 7:31:03 AM PST
by
unixfox
To: Sabertooth
............spend proportionately more time and resources........... While I fully realize you are being sarcastic and funny, the point you make is also so true that it makes me sad.
To: madfly
This is what it's getting down to??
And while our very own backyard -- the US borders -- remains an unsecured sieve, the U.S. military and intelligence are spending untold billions and doggedly tracking "enemy forces" via the latest technological means in a dozen other countries around the globe.
Good thing U.S. policy-makers aren't in the car-manufacturing business as well; Standard features would include a 500 hp engine; however brakes and steering wheel would be "optional".
To: gubamyster
bttt
To: madfly
If the INS was doing it's job, this situation wouldn't be happening.
Citizens have a right to protect themselves and their property. That's why they are called "citizens" and not "subjects", where the Crown holds all authority for law and order. If our feckless government agencies can't do their jobs, they should get out of the way and let somebody who can and wants to do it, do it.
I predict illegal immigration and border problems will quickly decrease in this area.
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posted on
10/28/2002 8:41:02 AM PST
by
Gritty
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