Posted on 10/28/2002 5:28:50 AM PST by SJackson
Right at the beginning we can see it's another "divide and conquer" attempt to "demonize the (infidel) victims."
Mornin' a.
Maybe you can answer this question that arose as I was reading the sentence above.
I thought the Iraelis were persecuting the Palestinians? Yet here we see that a man who is not only Pali, but also a political activist, is actually in the Knesset, the Israeli version of Congress.
How could that be? ;^)
We must be slipping ... ; c )
Total, complete, unmitigated bulls**t.
This dweeb sees fundamentalist Christians as the real threat, does he???
Tell me, a**hole (Mr. Bishara)..........when is the last time fundamentalist Christians entered a Muslim country, hijacked a couple of planes, and flew them into crowded skyscrapers? (Oh.......you don't have skyscrapers in your s**thole part of the world..........my bad.) When was the last time Christian fundamentalists declared a "holy war" on Muslims, crowing about the glories of wiping you off of the face of the earth?
Get stuffed, Bishara. Sell it elsewhere.
Fair criticism.
Back to the core matter: Muhammad was a vicious, murdering, charismatic poet. The Koran is the bitter faux-sweet fruit of his soul. Peaceable Muslims of good will are peaceable despite Muhammad and the Koran; murdering, lying, vicious Muslims are murdering, lying, and vicious because of Muhammad and the Koran.
In this, Falwell speaks the truth. His speaking the truth has placed his own life in danger.
You forgot to mention that the Israeli Palestinians enjoy more political freedom that any other Palestinian in a MUSLIM country.
IOW, Palestinians are more free in Israel than in any other country in the Middle East.
Ironic, isn't it?
Ummm, I would tend to disagree.
"Surely Allah will gather in hell the hypocrites and infidels" (Koran 4:140). "Those who disbelieve, We shall make them enter fire" (Koran 4:56); "like dregs of oil; it shall boil in (their) bellies" (Koran 44:43-58). "Fight, till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of Allah's" (Koran, 8:38). "Do not take your fathers and your brothers for guardians if they love unbelief more than belief; if your fathers your sons and brethren, your mates and your kinsfolk are dearer to you than Allah and His Apostle, then wait till Allah brings about His command: and Allah does not guide the transgressing people (Koran 9:23-24). "Therefore seize and kill them wherever you find them" (Koran 4:89). "Those who reject Our communications are the companions of the flame" (Koran 5:86).
Different I guess than some of the more 'understanding' churches that condone abortion and homosexuality. Yeah, Falwell's just evil < /sarcasm>
While the mainstream Christian churches in the United States are aware of the perils of fundamentalism and demagogic popular preaching, respecting the country's secular tradition and steering a mostly non-political path, far-right Christian fundamentalists constantly lobby US congressmen and the White House to further their beliefs. The time has come for the mainstream churches to try to reverse this trend in the US of politicised Christian fundamentalism, such as that promoted by Graham, Falwell, and the rest
Define mainstream. Those that use the Bible as a doorstop instead of a guide in their churches?
Contrived, would be my guess.
Here is what Netanyahu.org says about Bishari's claims that the Arab leadership did not have any connection with the Nazis' attempts to exterminate Jews.
Liars Among Us4. Zmanim, Summer 1995, v. 13, no. 53; p 56.Azmi Bishara is an Israeli Arab intellectual. Unlike some Arab spokesmen, he does not deny that there was a Holocaust of the Jews, in Europe at least. But, he insists: "The Shoah and everything connected with it are a European phenomenon... We as Arabs have no connection to it."4
Of course, he knows about the Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin el-Husseini, the main leader of the Palestinian Arabs at the time, widely esteemed in pan-Arab circles. Yet in Bishara's best yeoman-like style of falsification he tries to disarm those who have vague memories of Husseini's Nazi ties. Bishara admits that "the Palestinian national movement at least once considered... making an alliance with Nazi Germany." (As if this were not enough to contradict his own words quoted previously). Then he goes on to falsely claim that "This alliance did not come to fruition."5 This is a lie.
Bishara conveniently overlooks the fact that the Mufti was active in the Nazi-fascist domain from November 1941 until the German defeat in May 1945. The Germans put considerable sums at his disposal to maintain himself and his entourage, which included other Palestinian Arabs from leading families, and to set up offices called "Buro der Grossmufti." In return, Husseini made propaganda broadcasts to the Arab world over Radio Berlin ("Kill Jews wherever you find them"), recruited Arab troops (among Allied prisoners of war) for an "Arab Legion," helped organize a Bosnian Muslim SS division (notorious for atrocities in its own right against Serbs, Jews and Gypsies), indoctrinated imams from the Soviet Union, and also broadcast in that direction, exhorting Soviet Muslims to support the Nazis, which some of them did by joining German-sponsored military units, and even the Einsatzgruppen. In his discourse, Husseini explicitly identified Nazism with Islam. All of this surely sounds like an alliance, despite Bishara's apologetics.
Significantly, Husseini urged the Germans to extend the Holocaust to Arab lands. Concretely, he intervened several times with German and Italian ministers and Axis satellite governments in Hungary, Bulgaria, and Rumania, to prevent Jews from leaving the Axis domain. He specifically described Jewish children as a danger and urged that they be sent to Poland, where, in his words, they would be under "active supervision." It is likely (if not certain) that he himself visited one or more murder camps, while documents demonstrate that members of his entourage did so, escorted by SS officers. So he was well aware of what happened to Jewish children sent to Poland. After the war, the Mufti was enabled to return to the Middle East where he was again acclaimed the leader of the Palestinian Arabs.6
This information has long been available in English and Hebrew, etc., for many years. Researchers who have written on the subject of Arab-Nazi relations and the Arab-Holocaust nexus include Bernard Lewis, Lukasz Hirszowicz, Elias Cooper, Daniel Carpi, Jenny Lebel, Joseph Schechtman, Bartley Crum, and others. Nevertheless, Bishara claims, "We Arabs have no connection to it" (the Holocaust), also ignoring the presence of other prominent Arab nationalists in Berlin during the war.
The Palestinian Arab political leadership constituted in the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine (led by Husseini) demanded throughout the 1930s an end to aliyah --Jewish immigration to Eretz Israel, which the international community had juridically erected as the Jewish National Home in 1920 at San Remo, mandating Britain to implement it (League of Nations ratification 1922). The British violated their mandate by satisfying this Arab demand with the 1939 White Paper severely restricting Jewish immigration to the internationally designated Jewish National Home on the eve of Holocaust, when no country wanted to take in more than a token number of Jewish refugees, if any. The White Paper effectively doomed hundreds of thousands if not millions of Jews to die in the Shoah. But Azmi Bishara sees no Arab connection to the Holocaust. He also overlooks the role of one George Antonius, a member of the Arab Higher Committee on Palestine, led by Husseini, and simultaneously the Middle East representative of the New York-based Institute of Current World Affairs, funded and run by a wealthy, fanatic Judeophobe, Charles R. Crane, who was, incidentally, an admirer of Hitler.
Bishara was formerly a senior lecturer in philosophy at Bir Zeit University near Jerusalem (supported by US taxpayer funds) and a senior researcher at the Van Leer Institute in Jerusalem, specializing in 19th century German philosophy, the nexus between philosophy and society, etc. He now earns the salubrious salary of an Israeli MK, using the Knesset as a platform for Arab nationalist demands, sometimes wrapped in liberal, democratic fig leaves, sometimes in Stalinist garb. His university studies in Communist East Germany must have helped him perfect his mastery of demo-Stalinist sloganeering. It may have been his moral standing which led the Van Leer to have him chair a symposium on Eugenics: Philosophical and Moral Aspects (1997). Zmanim, which published Bishara's inventions (Summer 1995), was financed by the Department for Culture and Art of the Cultural Administration of the Israel Education and Culture Ministry.
Most Christians in Syria and Jordan are dead or relocated to other countries.
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