[sneakypete]

the shame of it is, it's always a win for terorists if they can kill off some innocent people .

This was a total loss for the terrorists. They didn't accomplish a single one of their goals,and didn't even manage to kill the hostages and bring the building down. They look like murderous bumbling fools.

[Bobby777]

well I certainly don't want to give them ANY credit ... that's not my point ... but they did kill a hostage or two ... and they could have killed many of them and brought the building down ... and now about 120 Russians are dead, either way ...

I'm certainly with you on not giving them a moral victory ... but they inflicted damage and that was their minimum goal ... they fight a war of attrition, like when they attack Israelis ...

[weikel]

Putin I think is my favorite world leader since Pinochet and I was real skeptical of the Russians before him.