Posted on 10/26/2002 11:53:26 PM PDT by churchillbuff
Claims of warnings about the pair to police BEFORE the killings started were piling up last night.
The Rev Al Archer, who runs the Lighthouse Mission Centre in Bellingham where the pair once lived, said he suspected the Gulf War veteran was a terrorist after September 11.
He said Muhammad distributed pro-Islam brochures, made anti-American slurs and also threatened to kill cops. He added: "If he'd been stopped at that time, a lot of people would be alive who are now dead."
Mr Archer revealed that Muhammad, who was existing on handouts, started travelling extensively by air. Harjeep Singh, who knew the snipers at a YMCA gym, said he was alarmed at their vow to go on a gun-rampage, targetting cops and fuel tankers.
Police and an FBI agent interviewed Mr Singh but no action was taken.
Full article: SNIPER ESCAPE BID FBI agents grab him as he flees
THE 17-year-old Washington sniper made a dramatic freedom bid—by punching his way through the CEILING of an interview room.
John Lee Malvo seized his chance after being left alone by FBI interrogators.
He leapt on a table and quickly smashed the flimsy ceiling tiles with his fists—then began hauling himself up into a ventilation shaft.
Agents dashed into the room, grabbed his flailing legs and wrenched the struggling teenager back down.
Last night the FBI refused to comment on the embarrassing incident at the "secure" and secret federal centre in Baltimore, Maryland.
Malvo and fellow sniper John Muhammad, 41—who face the death penalty in seven different jurisdictions —are refusing to help enquiries into their reign of terror in the US capital.
Posed
One agent said: "Never mind co-operation. They're not even talking."
The pair—who killed ten and wounded three in a 21-day spree— could also be charged with an unsolved murder on America's west coast.
Keenya Cook, 21, was killed in February with a single head shot as she opened her front door in Tacoma, Washington State, where Muhammad and Malvo were living at the time.
The assassins were friends with her family—and even posed for the now infamous picture together on their sofa.
But ex-Army marksman Muhammad, who changed his name from Williams because he converted to Islam, fell out with the Cooks when they befriended his ex-wife.
Claims of warnings about the pair to police BEFORE the killings started were piling up last night.
The Rev Al Archer, who runs the Lighthouse Mission Centre in Bellingham where the pair once lived, said he suspected the Gulf War veteran was a terrorist after September 11.
He said Muhammad distributed pro-Islam brochures, made anti-American slurs and also threatened to kill cops. He added: "If he'd been stopped at that time, a lot of people would be alive who are now dead."
Mr Archer revealed that Muhammad, who was existing on handouts, started travelling extensively by air. Harjeep Singh, who knew the snipers at a YMCA gym, said he was alarmed at their vow to go on a gun-rampage, targetting cops and fuel tankers.
Police and an FBI agent interviewed Mr Singh but no action was taken.
There were also chilling new revelations last night about how Malvo and Muhammad mocked police by repeatedly slipping through dragnets.
Their 1990 blue Chevrolet Caprice— a killing machine with holes in the boot to fire through—was first noted by police on October 3, just 24 hours after the first killing. But it was lost in the system while the entire hunt centred on a white van.
Meanwhile, Muhammad was stopped or spoken to by officers TEN times for various traffic offences.
During a spot-check on October 8, he was parked and asleep at the wheel. But cops failed to look in the boot, where they would have found the Bushmaster XM15 rifle.
The most chilling escape was last Monday when two illegal immigrants in a white van were held in a swoop as they used a phone booth being staked out by cops.
Muhammad and Malvo had given the number of the booth to detectives in a phone call. And just yards away, they were lurking in their blue Chevy, watching every move in the fiasco.
The car was even caught in the background on news footage—and still the jigsaw did not piece together.
Finally, police realised the car they were looking for. But Chief Charles Moose refused to reveal the number plate. It was only when one of his team leaked it that the pair were found one-and-a-half hours later.
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I think these guys were "the evil doers" but not the evil masterminds. After the Bowie incident, the big guy split and they went on to do "stupid" $10 mil tricks. They may be "stupid" but they're not that stupid. They sacrificed themselves and that equates them to the suicide crew of 9-11.
They'll clam up just like Moussaoui and Reid and I wouldn't be surprised if they try to defend themselves. It's a suicide mission waiting to happen.
We have a piece missing by the way. How did they come up with the license plate in the first place?? The truck driver might have ID'd the vehicle at the rest stop but that's all he did. The clues from Alabama were insufficient. Someplace there's a tipster who is in "protective custody". Who??
You may just be on to something there. I hope they thoroughly investigated those two.
BTW, interesting coincidence that Nathaniel Osborne was found in Flint, MI, don't you think?
"Vanished are: a 90-day-admission stamp that validates foreign passports; a "parolee" stamp for refugees; two different stamps that allow foreign sailors ashore to shop; and an "I-551" stamp that marks the visas of those awaiting permanent-residency cards. Also pinched in the weekend burglary were a slew of INS forms, an INS badge, a .40-caliber Beretta handgun, two clips of ammunition and a laptop computer."
Malvo's bragging about the shooting led them to match the print on the letter(Malvo's) to the one left at the Alabama shooting. The note and the voice indicated a foreigner. The print was on file with the INS in Seattle (they probably had to twist some arms to get the INS to cooperate). The INS incarcerated Malvo after a custody dispute between Malvo's mother and Muhammad, leading them to Muhammad. Muhammad's picture was on file in various jurisdictions, and probably with the FBI itself (since he'd been referred to them two or three times, most recently in July of this year). Witnesses in Alabama saw both Malvo and Muhammad when they ran from the scene, and most probably picked them out of a photo lineup.
A DMV search would turn up the registration/plate number for the car registered to Muhammad -- and there may also have been some witnesses who reported a New Jersey plate on a Caprice, but since it wasn't on a white van, it was ignored....
digging deep, again?
self-ping
Old thread troll?
Do you post at DU too?
INBTZ anyway
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