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How S625 Will End Freedom of Speech.("Hate Crime")
usa21
| 10/26.02
| usa21
Posted on 10/26/2002 8:03:07 PM PDT by USA21
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:03:09 PM PDT
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USA21
To: USA21
Surely our "conservative" President will veto this nonsense (sarcasm).
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:09:53 PM PDT
by
caltrop
To: USA21
This is an old article. What is going on lately?
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:12:42 PM PDT
by
07055
To: caltrop
I dunno. W must have at least one lick of sense. That's all it should take to veto this POS.
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To: USA21
If a person thinks they've been harmed by another person calling them a name they can take the person/defendant to court and do their best to prove to an
impartial jury that they had been harmed by the defendant's name calling. The plaintiff would be lucky to convince a third of the jurors that they had been had been harmed by the defendant -- let alone convince all twelve jurors, which they'd need to obtain a guilty verdict.
Congress has created so many laws that virtually every person is assured of breaking more than just traffic laws. Surely, with all this supposed lawlessness people and society should have long ago run head long into destruction. But it has not.
Instead, people and society have progressively prospered. Doing so despite the federal government -- politicians and bureaucrats -- creating on average, 3,000 new laws and regulations each year which self-serving alphabet-agency bureaucrats implement/utilize to "justify" their usurped power and unearned paychecks. They both proclaim from on high -- with complicit endorsement from the media and academia -- that all those laws are necessary, "must-have" laws to thwart people and society from running headlong into self-destruction.
How is it that people and society have managed to increasingly prosper last year, the year before and decades prior without having each year's 3,000 new laws? But suddenly each year the people need 3,000 new laws. Why will people and society not run headlong into self-destruction this year despite not having next year's 3,000 new laws, or the 3,000 new laws in 2004?
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:19:37 PM PDT
by
Zon
To: USA21
Congress is set to vote on the most dangerous threat to your freedom yet.
Would you care to enlighten us as to when this "SET TO VOTE" is to take place? Got any ideas?
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:20:22 PM PDT
by
deport
To: deport
went they get back
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:24:23 PM PDT
by
USA21
To: USA21
When do they get back?
To: caltrop
can anyone post the bills
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:26:28 PM PDT
by
USA21
To: USA21
I'm not sufficiently computer literate to but I suppose someone who is could go to THOMAS and post it.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:32:58 PM PDT
by
caltrop
To: USA21
Why don't you do your own research on the Senate site?
Have yet to figure out why you would post this like it is breaking news and facing imminent passage because here is the status and look at the last date anything was done on this bill (11 June 2002). No way will this be voted on when they come back! They have too much other work to do!
3/27/2001:
Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
7/26/2001:
Committee on the Judiciary. Ordered to be reported without amendment favorably.
7/26/2001:
Committee on the Judiciary. Reported by Senator Leahy without amendment. Without written report.
7/26/2001:
Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 103.
5/9/2002:
By Senator Leahy from Committee on the Judiciary filed written report. Report No. 107-147. Minority views filed.
6/7/2002:
Measure laid before Senate by unanimous consent. (consideration: CR S5246-5248, S5251-5252)
6/7/2002:
S.AMDT.3807 Amendment SA 3807 proposed by Senator Reid for Senator Biden. (consideration: CR S5246)
To provide reliable officers, technology, education, community prosecutors, and training in our neighborhoods.
6/7/2002:
Cloture motion on the bill presented in Senate.
6/10/2002:
Considered by Senate. (consideration: CR S5267-5276)
6/10/2002:
S.AMDT.3807 Considered by Senate. (consideration: CR S5267)
6/10/2002:
S.AMDT.3807 Proposed amendment SA withdrawn in Senate. (consideration: CR S5269)
6/10/2002:
S.AMDT.3824 Amendment SA 3824 proposed by Senator Hatch. (consideration: CR S5272-5276; text: CR S5272)
To amend the penalty section to include the possibility of the death penalty.
6/11/2002:
Considered by Senate. (consideration: CR S5325-5337)
6/11/2002:
S.AMDT.3824 Considered by Senate. (consideration: CR S5325)
6/11/2002:
Cloture on the measure not invoked in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 54 - 43. Record Vote Number: 147.
6/11/2002:
Motion by Senator Daschle to reconsider the vote by which cloture was not invoked entered in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
6/11/2002:
Returned to the Calendar.
To: USA21
When I checked the vote on cloture, it seems that Republicans could filibuster this one to death and this bill will never see the light of day with passing. So what is the urgency?
But then I would assume you would know that before posting this! So why did you post this and why is there not a link to this article?
To: PhiKapMom
LOL..... I was just wondering when this vote was gonna take place. Hell they can't even get cloture on it..... But to be sure they will attempt at some point most likely. There are some 50 sponsors so they will eventually whittle away...
I was gonna let him/her go look it up. He has the bill number and Thomas or the Senate web site is all he needs...
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:43:26 PM PDT
by
deport
To: USA21
It seems like this Idaho case has been going on for an 100 years, whens this thing going to end.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:49:03 PM PDT
by
Husker24
To: USA21
Looking on the senate web site I find tow versions of this bill. s.625.rs, s.625.is.
Maybe I'm not reading them right, but could somebody explain exactly how these bills relate to the statements in the article? I'm not in favor of this bill, either version, but don't find it to be the great threat presented here (I may be wrong, which is why I asked for an explaination).
Besides, with conservative republican hero Bush in office, it will be vetoed if passed. The same way clinton would have vetoed any conservative bill that weakened hate crime legislation.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:50:29 PM PDT
by
templar
To: USA21
The real sin ------
Where the hell are the judges who should be slamming this "hate crime" crap as unconstitutional via the 1st. Amendment? There lies the REAL battle.
To: USA21
Revelation 17
The Scarlet Woman and the Scarlet Beast
1 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me, "Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication."
3So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5And on her forehead a name was written:
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.
To: deport
He/She seems to be incapable of putting up sources or researching much of anything. I wasn't going to post it, but then I decided that I wasn't going to let this stand without the truth either.
Some Freepers seem to like to do this -- wonder why? Can imagine the reaction in a Senate office to getting urgent calls on a bill that cannot make it through cloture!
To: PhiKapMom
The bill has 24 amendments to it that have to be run up the pole (disposed of) before going to a vote..... most of them by Republican Senators. I think this is an email thing that is passed around from time to time. I know it was used back in the summer when the cloture vote was pending.
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posted on
10/26/2002 9:34:14 PM PDT
by
deport
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