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To: archy
Novichok - Recently developed choline sterase inhibitor (U.S.S.R.). May affect human genes and thus damage could be genetically transmitted to offspring.

NOWHERE CAN I FIND INFORMATION THAT THIS AGENT CAUSES SLEEPING.

10 posted on 10/26/2002 2:18:02 PM PDT by seeker41
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To: seeker41
It is a nerve agent that when imbued by the human system causes it to simply shutdown. I would say that it probably causes loss of conscious skeletal muscle movement, although reports of people dying from drowning in their own vomit probably indicates some smooth muscle loss of control.

As for it inducing sleep i guess the reason the media said so is because they saw imobile people, hence the conventional thought is 'sleep gas.' A similar example is when someone buys in a public store 'Pepper Spray' and automatically thinks he is buying 'Mace' when in reality there is a big difference between Pepper Spray and Mace. However not as big as the difference between sleeping gas and a nerve agent.

One will knock you to sleep, the other could very well put you to sleep. Subtle but profound.

12 posted on 10/26/2002 2:30:50 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: seeker41
If it is what was used and is a cholinesterase inhibitor it does not cause sleepiness, but a lack of nerve-to-muscle communication.

They had a lot of better choices, surely, and I cannot imagine they would use this. If they had it seems like a lot more people would be dead. Many many more.

17 posted on 10/26/2002 2:36:30 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: seeker41
Novichok - recently developed choline sterase inhibitor (U.S.S.R.). May affect human genes and thus damage could be transmitted to offspring.

NOWHERE CAN I FIND INFORMATION THAT THIS AGENT CAUSES SLEEPING.

See following account, particularly regarding tests of Novochok-33 in low doses, and various interesting effects, including reported IMPROVED marksmanship ability with small arms, in some instances. But I suspect the *sleeping* it causes is of the permanent variety, as per the effects noted in the photos of the dead terrorists without visible bullet wounds, who had nevertheless evacuated their bowels and bladders [per stained carpets beneath them] upon exposure to the *sleep gas.*

We'll see; look for numbers of the gassed hostages who become casualties soar into the 150+ range over the next week. But I bet the bargaining of supplies of 2-PAM or Atropine for the captured terrorists makes for an interesting bargaining chip during their interrogations, particularly as they watch others so exposed expire.

-archy-/-

21 posted on 10/26/2002 2:50:40 PM PDT by archy
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