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'China to Replace US as the Engine for World Economy'
The Peoples Daily (China) ^ | 10.26.02

Posted on 10/26/2002 8:25:34 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State

'China to Replace US as the Engine for World Economy'

Taking advantage of World Economic Forum Asian Department Director Dr. Richter's visit to China, our reporter recently conducted an exclusive interview with him on such hot issues as the prospect of China's economy, and the development trend of the world economy. Dr. Richter indicated that China is expected to become a new "engine" for world economic development within five years because it is one of the few bright points of the world economy.

Reporter: The UN, the IMF and other organizations have, in their regular economic reports, lowered their anticipated world economic growth, the US-centered global economic recession tends to become increasingly serious, what's your view about this and when can the world economy get out of a slump?

Richter: The figures released recently by The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) show that Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) globe-wide dropped 50 percent compared with last year, this is a very pessimistic figure, among all regions including the United States, Europe and Japan, only investment made in China has witnessed growth, the world economy presents not an optimistic outlook, the globe will possibly enter a new recession which will last a longer time. There exist problems with some large transnational corporations of Europe and America, such as the famous American Ford and Italian Fiat, and some transnational corporations even face the danger of being closed.

The US economy once had all along been the engine for world economic development, but now it is faced with predicament and plagued by chaos, under such circumstances, who can replace the United States to become the engine for world economic development? Is it Europe, Japan or China? The situation in Europe does not make one feel optimistic either, although Japan presently remains the world's second largest economic entity, its banking system is faced with many difficult problems, if its banking system is properly rectified, it may give new hopes, but due to its domestic problems, it is impossible for Japan to replace the United States. Then, who, after all, can replace the United States? Only China! China's economic situation is very good, not only its domestic situation is favorable, but also more and more overseas investments are turned to China which is hopefully to take the place of the United States in five years to become the main motive force for global economic growth.

Reporter: What influence will the deteriorating external environment exert on China's economic development?

Richter: China will not suffer from negative influence, on the contrary, it will possibly get benefit therefrom. China is one of the bright points of the global economy, and it will attract more and more foreign investments. Of course, China also has competitive rivals, both India and Mexico are trying to attract foreign capital.

Reporter: Would you please give a forecast of the prospect for China's economic development, what favorable and unfavorable factors are therein, especially in the aftermath of China's WTO Entry?

Richter: The competitiveness of China's economy is growing in strength, not only State-owned enterprises, but private enterprises as well are witnessing ever-faster development, Chinese enterprises have taken an encouraging step toward globalization, such as Hairer, Legend and TCL, their products are rapidly entering European and American markets, these companies are developing step by step to become global transnational corporations. From a long-term point of view, joining the WTO is beneficial to China, perhaps many transnational companies may create some sort of impact and bring competition on Chinese enterprises, but this is beneficial to China, because only under competitive conditions, can Chinese enterprises experience rapid growth and China's markets become more mature and perfect. In the past, many domestic enterprises were only faced with domestic markets, but now they are confronted with large global markets. Many domestic enterprises have begun to buy up foreign enterprises, for instance, the Shanghai Auto Group participates in buying the share of the ROK's , Daewoo, Petro-China invested in Indonesia and bought the share of an Indonesian oil company.

Of course, China also faces problems that must not be neglected, such as the gap between the east and west economic development, unemployment and the problem relating to the ?¡ãoverheated?¡À infrastructure construction in various localities.

Reporter: In the first half of this year, you stated in one article carried on the Singaporean Strait Times that the Group 8 (the United States, Japan, Germany, France, Italy, Britain, Canada and Russia) should accept China as one of its members. You enumerated in the article many reasons for this, in your opinion, what's the most important point?

Richter: Western countries should change their views about China, many European and American people know little about the situation in China, they should come more often to see for themselves. As to the most important reason, let me give an example. As a member of Group 8, Italy's total GDP amount is incomparable with that of China staying outside the Group, this is the most important index, if Group 8 wants to be representative in the world, it should not neglect the existence of China. Of course, involved here are not only economic factors, but also political factors. The importance of China's economic development has been recognized by more and more people, Western countries should treat China as an equal partner as soon as possible.

Reporter: There are some experts and scholars in the world who express doubts about the truth of China's economic statistics. What do you think about this issue?

Rocjter: I believe that the figures provided by official Chinese sources on economic growth are correct, the trends of China's economic growth are clear to all. Since China is a large country, the composition of various statistical data is very complicated, although we cannot avoid the existence of small errors, whether the growth is 7 percent or 8 percent is not important, small errors will not exert much influence, what is important is that China's economy is still growing steadily.

Reporter: It is said that you are writing a new book on China. Can you say something about this book, what kind of viewpoint are you to present to the readers?

Richter: In this book I will focus on the discussion of three possible scenarios for China's economic development: first, China to replace the United States to become the engine for world economic development; second, China will be plagued by a variety of problems such as stagflation of the Chinese economy and unemployment; third, a mixture of the above two kinds of situation. I think the first scenario is most likely to happen, that is, China will become the engine for world economic development.
 


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To: Enemy Of The State
No surprise here. With the labor unions running the country(through the democrat party), it woun't take 5 years for China to surpass the USA as the leading economic power.
61 posted on 10/26/2002 2:20:26 PM PDT by desertcry
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To: SamAdams76
we need another economic force that can pay some of the world's frieght in terms of aid and peace, while we focus on exporting the cultural products that are admired world-wide

do you expect that other developed nations will ever migrate toward chinese as their second language of choice or to watching their films and listening to their music, buying their software etc?
62 posted on 10/26/2002 2:25:52 PM PDT by dwills
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To: Enemy Of The State
This so absurd that I can't even find the energy to go through this clowns ideas point by point.The US will be the top dog today, 10 years from now, 25 years from now and up until I leave this mortal coil.
63 posted on 10/26/2002 2:37:24 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Southack
>Optimists look on the bright side. Those aren't examples of looking on the bright side.

Optimists have been buying on dips for the past three years.

64 posted on 10/26/2002 4:34:54 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Enemy Of The State
Jim Rogers also said that Africa was going to become the place to invest due to its young demographics. Guess he was wrong on that pick.
65 posted on 10/26/2002 4:36:22 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
"Optimists have been buying on dips for the past three years."

Indeed. And those of us who have been doing so with real-estate have greatly expanded our fortunes.

Good luck to you, as well.

66 posted on 10/26/2002 4:37:43 PM PDT by Southack
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To: Southack
Yet you seem to be betting that today's drop will be more severe.

I'll take what I can get.

And your position certainly betrays your claim to be an optimist, btw!

When you butted in, I was arguing with a fellow who believed that 99% of the world's population needed to die in order for civilization to survive! So yeah, I'm a wee bit more optimistic than he is.

Why, do you want to be known as Atom Selene 235, as in the old Japanese lunar landing project Selene, or just that 235 is the end of your nickname?

Adam (not Atom...put the So-Co down and rub your eyes) Selene..The first man combined with the greek moon goddess..The name was already taken so I tacked on an easily remembered 235 to distinguish it. From Heinlein's classic:


67 posted on 10/26/2002 5:03:26 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: Dialup Llama
Jim Rogers also said that Africa was going to become the place to invest due to its young demographics. Guess he was wrong on that pick.

Specifically, he was bullish on Botswana. And if I invested in Africa, that would be my first choice. He's since changed his mind, btw.

68 posted on 10/26/2002 5:05:40 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: Enemy Of The State
I think china is slowly moving more towards the pinochet model in some respects. It will be a facist state, with power, but in this case its looking to build its economy around manufacturing, which will provide it with jobs, creating wealth for its people, who will then be able to spend it, on chinese made products. The problems that they have and even the chinese admit this, is that they do not create or innovate. They do not invent. They can claim no advantage over intellectual properties or ideas or products. Untill they move towards creatitivity, they will be a source of cheap labor. As america moves more towards a service oriented economy (which is what we essentially have now). China will be the labor. This can't be good for them or us in the long run, especially when cheap labor is easy to replace, while creative visionary's are not. I wish the USA would actually look to fast tracking and moving ahead with our patenting department and FDA. The chinese don't even get the concept of benefiting from your own invention.
69 posted on 10/26/2002 5:16:24 PM PDT by Sonny M
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To: rightwing.wacko
Slavery is typical of agrarian societies. If you want to be an industrial society, that makes quality products,slavery must go. I think thats the problem with Chinese products. The quality sucks. Their's is some of the worst stuff. As a consumer, I have to complain about quality because so much stuff that is made available to us is made in China. Alternatives can be hard to find at a reasonable price. If China wants to make quality products, they'll have to set higher standards, raise the pay of their slaves and perhaps make them into stakeholders. If they don't then they'll just be another Asian tiger that will go bust.
70 posted on 10/26/2002 6:11:53 PM PDT by virgil
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To: AdamSelene235
"Long-term problems include
inadequate investment in economic infrastructure, rapidly rising medical and pension costs of an aging
population, sizable trade deficits, and stagnation of family income in the lower economic groups. "

Of course....and I think you can attribute most of these things above to the government and there supidity/lust for power.
71 posted on 10/26/2002 7:58:26 PM PDT by Revel
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To: DoctorMichael
There's as much R&D going on in China these days as the U.S. China is producing more science Ph.D's as well. Probably half of US Ph. D candidates are foreign-born, too. In regard to slave labor, Harry Wu, who is the expert on this issue, says that at any one time China has about 8 mil. people in its "laogai" prison system. In a country of 1.2 bil., 8 mil. is a miniscule percentage. 8 mil. slave laborers along can't hardly be responsible for China's $4-5 tril. economy. China has cheap labor, but cheap labor isn't necessarily slave labor.
72 posted on 10/26/2002 11:07:48 PM PDT by formosaplastics
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To: AdamSelene235
I see a lot of second hand speculation about China on FR. Perhaps you could post Rogers observations as a separate article.
73 posted on 10/26/2002 11:08:40 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: DoctorMichael
Today's Third World republics are theoretically "free," but their economies are nonetheless lagging China's.
74 posted on 10/26/2002 11:15:28 PM PDT by formosaplastics
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To: Sonny M
Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, etc. all started out in the 1960's with "cheap labor" and shoddy products and one-party governments as well, but eventually they got rich, better-educated, made high-quality products, and even adopted multi-party democracy. On the other hand, the majority of people living in India today are still poor and illiterate after 50 years of democracy. Recently, a Toshiba executive commented that there was no difference in quality between a laptop made in China and one made in Japan.
75 posted on 10/26/2002 11:24:45 PM PDT by formosaplastics
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To: Enemy Of The State
China today is like America 100 years ago. 100 years ago, America wasn't even considered any kind of superpower, let alone power. England, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Russia, and France were considered the most powerful countries at that time. America, along with Japan, was an "up and comer" or "emerging market." But in 100 years' time, America surpassed all these other countries. In history, countries can play musical chairs in terms of being a superpower or not.

Superpower status is a function of economics. Economics is a function of population size, for the most part. Here is a table of countries, their population sizes, and their GDP's:

USA: 285 mil., $10 tril.
Japan: 130 mil., $4.8 tril.
Germany: 80 mil., $1.8 tril.
England: 60 mil., $1.2 tril.
France: 60 mil., $1.2 tril.

In general, the more people a country has, the bigger its economy can be. The more people a country has, the more economic output it can produce and, among other things, the bigger a military it can afford.

China today has an economy of about $5 tril. It's already the second largest economy in the world. It's per-capita GDP is $4,000. In China's 10 richest cities, with a total population of 100 mil., per-capita GDP is $16,000, which is on par with Taiwan and S. Korea.

100 mil. people is almost as big as Japan's entire population or the number of people in America who actually have daily jobs.

20 years ago, there were fewer than 10 mil. people in China with a $16,000 per-capita GDP. Today, it's 100 mil. Over the next 20 years, it'll likely be 200-300 mil. And by that time China's overall GDP will be bigger than America's as well.

20 years ago, over 90% of China's population was agrarian, but now just 67% or so. By 2020, that figure will probably fall under 50%. That means over 700 mil. city dwellers, the richest 200-300 mil. of which will have First World living standards. 200-300 mil. will be bigger than Japan's entire population and almost as big as America's population. And then after 2020, China has the rest of the century to advance even further.

By 2020, many Fortune 500 companies will be getting more revenues from China than the US itself! The other day, Intel announced that mainland China has become its second-biggest source of revenue in the entire world after the US itself.

China is already the #1 market in the world for cell phones, light bulbs, refridgerators, air conditioners, elevators, and #2 in PC's and computer chips.

Can America really go to war with a country which is the main source of its own companies' revenues without shooting itself in the foot?

In addition, every car maker in the world knows right now that China is the world's fastest-growing market for cars. By 2020, they predict China will be #1. Incidentally, they also predict that by 2020, all cars will be driven by fuel cells. Recently, Honda even announced it would make 18 different fuel-cell powered car models by 2005.
76 posted on 10/27/2002 12:03:37 AM PDT by formosaplastics
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To: formosaplastics
China has cheap labor, but cheap labor isn't necessarily slave labor.

Agreed. "Slave" labor may have been used too generally here.

Nonetheless, the PRC seems to have imported only those aspects of a Free-market that suit those in power, which therefore is not a Free market at all. I think we can both agree that the "collusion of government and business to the exclusion of the people" is a good working definition of a Facist State. For a Free Market to work efficiently the people, both the owners of the stores, shops and factories AND those that work in those businesses, the laborers, must be free to choose (see FREE TO CHOOSE by Nobel prize-winning Economist, Milton Friedman). When both sides of this equation are allowed to act and react freely towards one another is when the Market will work most efficiently.

Currently in China "The Communist Party" does not allow the free association of the people in ANY organization that is outside, and not sanctioned by, the Communist Party itself. There is coersion of the people that are caught in the grip of a group of individuals that meet in private to decide the fate of the country at a sea-side resort. From the Chinese Communist Party control over the "State-run" Catholic churches, to the placement of relatives in the newly created businesses, in a type of hereditary-succession, "The Party" does not want to give up its ultimate control of the country.

"Solidarity" in Poland was the result of the free-association of workers. The formation of an independent trade union in a communist country that did not allow any such group to be formed unless sanctioned by The Party was revolutionary. It was an alternate expression of the revolutionary "will-of-the-people" versus that sanction wholely claimed by "The Party" itself. I am still waiting for the formation of a single independent labor union in China that is not controlled ultimately by the Communist Party.

Yes, I understand China is changing, and any change involves dislocation and pain. Yes, the Communist rulers there, ever nervous over any hint of chaos and loss of control, are also allowing, and are responsible for, THAT verysame change. I have read that "The Party" is even beginning to allow the input of business leaders in the economic decisions that were once solely made by "The Party". These changes ARE good. But it would be better if the people had some input. In some respects the workers may as well be slaves.

Yes, this is a time of transition and things that were true yesterday may rapidly become false tomorrow, so rapid is the change. Still, my final comment then is half-jokingly directed at the people in China: "Workers of China unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains".

77 posted on 10/27/2002 8:16:44 AM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
India is a democratic constitutional republic, whereas China is a slave labor mongering, Communist, totalitarian state.

Which one would you rather support in order to help preserve our own way of life?

78 posted on 10/27/2002 3:19:29 PM PST by Annakin
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To: formosaplastics
India has the largest and most highly educated middle class in the world - almost 200 million strong. Get your facts straight, son.
79 posted on 10/27/2002 3:27:00 PM PST by Annakin
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To: staytrue
I see a lot of second hand speculation about China on FR. Perhaps you could post Rogers observations as a separate article.

Rogers cranks one out about every 2 months or so and I post them regularly. You can find his recent stuff at www.jimrogers.com. Check the articles section.

The movie entilted "War" in the Angola directory is also worth watching.

80 posted on 10/27/2002 5:06:41 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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