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Choice of successor is up to DFL Party
St Paul Pioneer (de)Press ^
| 10/26/02
| HANK SHAW
Posted on 10/26/2002 7:32:05 AM PDT by Valin
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:32:05 AM PDT
by
Valin
To: Valin
At 2:00 ET Wellstone's death was announced. Did anyone notice that the stock market went straight up after that?Today is Saturday and you can still see the graph
here If the Dems don't change the ballot it is because they don't believe Mondale will win. Mondale isn't a household name here like it used to be. When Fritz ran for prez, this frost-bitten state was the only one to carry him. We were rightly embarrassed.
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:40:44 AM PDT
by
Dataman
To: Dataman
I noticed that the market surged on the news of Wellstone's death.
Whether it's true or not a seminar caller to C-SPIN this morning commented that the folks on FNC were also remarking that the market surged upon the news.
The caller was so viciously critical of all things republican in general and FNC in particular that I don't know if her comment was truthful.
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:49:23 AM PDT
by
OldFriend
To: Valin
Clearly the DFL is in a quandry. While there will be a considerable sympathy vote, a replacemnet like Skip Humphry or Walter Mondull may not bring out the party faithful. The alternative of leaving Wellstone's name on the ballot would likely assure his election, but then the Ventura wildcard comes into play. I'd bet given the chance Jesse Ventura would appoint himself as Senator.
To: OldFriend
the market surged on the news of Wellstone's death. Post hoc ergo procter hoc
Correlation does not equal causation.
There's nothing in Wellstone's death that should provide any impetus for the stock market, therefore it's foolish, absent some compelling evidence, to assume that there's any correlation between those two events.
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:58:59 AM PDT
by
Lyford
To: Dataman
I recall reading that in that election if just ONE voter in each precinct changed their vote Friz would have lost Mn. also.
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:59:13 AM PDT
by
Valin
To: The Great RJ
Why is everyone overlooking one of Wellstone's sons as a replacement?
To: Valin
They are completely ignoring the possibility that Coleman could win. Even to the extent that, should he win, he will be taken out of office and a dem put in anyway??
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:01:15 AM PDT
by
lawdude
To: OldFriend
I must have been watching the of the segment, and a woman from Lakeville, MN. She said she was a well read person, and that the CIA has been know to remove unwanted leaders in other countries, and could be involved in Mr Wellstone death.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:01:30 AM PDT
by
MattMa
To: Queen of Excelsior
"Why is everyone overlooking one of Wellstone's sons as a replacement?"
Because you must be 30 years old, and neither of them is!
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:02:04 AM PDT
by
lawdude
To: Queen of Excelsior
I believe that both have declined the offer at this time.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:03:20 AM PDT
by
MattMa
To: Dataman
The death of this liberal is hardly news worthy. I suspect catching the sniper may have had more fo an impact since that AFFECTED busineess directly.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:05:54 AM PDT
by
nmh
To: Lyford
Just the little fact that the Senate may for brief shining time be controlled by REPUBLICANS was enough to give hope!
To: OldFriend
I noticed that the market surged on the news of Wellstone's death. Whether it's true or not a seminar caller to C-SPIN this morning commented that the folks on FNC were also remarking that the market surged upon the news.
Bob Pisani, on CNBC, made a big thing of this yesterday afternoon, even mentioning a number of stocks that might benefit from a Republican takeover of the Senate - defense, tobacco, pharmaceuticals, etc..
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:14:27 AM PDT
by
jackbill
To: Valin
The DFL party asked Clinton who should replace Wellstone and he said "Mondale". Everybody thought that he was talking about old Fritz but he meant Eleanor.
http://www.ishipress.com/emondale.htm
Here we go again!
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:16:59 AM PDT
by
jackbill
To: Valin
It is curious that one lawyer believes that state law allows the name of the deceased to stay on the ballot. I believe that the law is clear on that issue.
Section 204B.13 on elections indicates that for a vacancy in nomination that occurs after 16 days but before 4 days before the election, that name shall be struck out from the ballot. However, it also states that section 204B.41 applies to vacancies due to death or catastrophic illness. That section states that the officer in charge shall (my emphasis) prepare and distribute a supplemental ballot for the office in question. There is no specific mention of striking out the name of the deceased.
My take on this is that section 204B.41 is an add-on for the previous section to allow a little extra time for death and illness and that the strike out provision would still apply, especially since 204B.41 states shall prepare. Why prepare a supplemental ballot if there are no changes. My understanding that in law the word shall is a compulsory type of word.
Therefore, Wellstone's name must be replaced or stricken.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:34:12 AM PDT
by
IpaqMan
To: jackbill
Yes, they tiptoed around it but several CNBC people and analysts attributed the afternoon rally to the Wellstone news. The market has tended to rally whenever it looked like Republicans could retake the Senate. Also, yesterday's news meant the most liberal, anti-business senator is gone. It's sick, but the market liked this news.
To: OldFriend; nmh
I suspect the surge was on the possibility of the Republicans regaining control of the Senate.
Does anyone remember that the Senate killed the stimulus package because Daschound was the leader? One less dem and one more Republican would have kept him from killing the stimulus package that may have turned the economy around months ago.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:40:51 AM PDT
by
Dataman
To: IpaqMan
This law could not be clearer. The DFL must replace Paul within 7 days of his death. Otherwise, Coleman becomes unopposed.
Since when did a clearly written law stop Demons from doing whatever they want?
To: lawdude; Queen of Excelsior
I've seen his son David mentioned as a possible replacement in one or two articles.
Dude what is his age? I've not been able to find it listed anywhere.... But Wellstone was born July, 1944, married in 1963 and had three children with David being the oldest. Depending upon how long after he was married that David was born it's very possible for him to be in his mid 30s or more.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:54:56 AM PDT
by
deport
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