Posted on 10/26/2002 7:14:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
``We were looking for a white van with white people, and we ended up with a blue car with black people,'' said Washington, D.C., Police Chief Charles Ramsey, whose department ran the Caprice's license Oct. 3, just hours before a fatal shooting in Washington that has been tied to the sniper suspects, John Allen Muhammad, 41, and John Lee Malvo, 17.
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By the same token, it's just as bad. They are NOT ALLOWING the categorization of the snipers as Muslims, Nation of Islamicists, blacks, terrorists, or juhadists. But they ARE allowing them to be called former military.
They almost did!
1. Pissed-off loser convert to Islam.
2. Hanging with a minor, dubious relationship.
3. Car modified so sniper could shoot from prone position through hole in trunk, laying across passenger compartment.
4. Car was seen by a witness and reported to police as leaving a shooting.
5. Car was seen BY POLICE AT LEAST TEN TIMES close enough to run the plates, including at least one incident where a cop looked inside to see John Mohammad sleeping in the car.
6. Shootings took place in commercial strips where the car was almost certainly in view of multiple security cams before and after the shootings.
Eluding capture while a very impressive-looking dragnet is in place made these murderous morons look like Osama's Own Badasses. In the end, a sharp trucker found them sleeping in an Interstate rest area (how many time do you think a statie drove through that rest are that night?). So, yeah, the only way the police would have found them would be if they had been found dancing around one of their victims' corpses, smearing the victim's blood on their faces while waving the murder weapon in the air yelling "It's a .223!"
Is this an actual quote? Amazing. I have heard that medieval doctors would sometimes treat a wound by applying salve to the arrow or blade that caused it. Moose seems to be working up a new twist on an old theme.
Another article in this forum describes the libs and 'Rats as "slithering back into their holes" ... muttering under their breath about an opportunity foiled, no doubt.
I'm curious about that. 2 or 3 times for an unlucky person to get their plate run, but 10!!@ What are the chances?
so they weren't sleeping at the time; so the possible HOMOSEXUAL aspect of this story 'has legs'?!
PLEASE, where's the post you're referring to?
So very true, and so very lacking in this case. Too many Ph.D.s in cheesy subjects like Urban Studies. Too many Ninja suits and MP5s. But nobody notices when they see the same car TEN TIMES and nobody notices it was modified to hide a sniper.
Policing suffers from the same diseases as public education: Too many credentials from dumbed-down postgraduate programs, a rigid unionization of the workforce, political correctness gone wild, topheavy management, inflated costs, too many personnel doing too little real work, etc. So why do we get jackboot lickers on this forum that won't say one bad word about cops? Contrast that with freeper teachers, military, and other government employees - all willing to rip the way their work is done these days. Until the blue wall of silence is torn down, it won't get any better.
This remark of yours was discussed last night at our dinner party when one of the ladies said the white guys who were hauled out of their vans with shotgun aimed at their head were hauled out and thrown on the highway, should sue Moose and Montgomery county.
Another dinner guest brought up the security videos that had to be running around the shopping centers. He wondered how many times John Muhammed and his Caprice were sighted at and leaving the scene where/when the killings happened.
You're right merry10 but the jist of the story is mostly how PC and profiling as well as our court system has tied the cops hands. This isn't about the cops letting them go. It's about political correctness run amuck..
I kept thinking this the whole time. I imagine the cars at the very least have dash mounted terminals. Even if the input is just dumped into a nice strong Oracle or SQL box you're probably only dealing with several thousands of unique records. Any pattern should have been extremely easy to discern with just basic queries.
You'd think this would be SOP in a case like this. Oh well, maybe they learned.
You're right merry10 but the jist of the story is mostly how PC and profiling as well as our court system has tied the cops hands. This isn't about the cops letting them go. It's about political correctness run amuck..
Politics suck -- politics suck objectivity out and insert irrationality in.
Sometimes a small error will be compounded over and over until it becomes a massive problem.
In mid-term and presidential elections tens-of-millions of people vote for the lesser of evils despite that it still begets evil. How can so many people thinking they're right be so wrong?
"The oppressor no longer acts directly and with his own powers upon his victim. No, our conscience has become too sensitive for that. The tyrant and his victim are still present, but there is an intermediate person between them, which is the Government - that is, the Law itself. What can be better calculated to silence our scruples, and, which is perhaps better appreciated, to overcome all resistance? We all therefore, put in our claim, under some pretext or other, and apply to Government. We say to it, "I am dissatisfied at the proportion between my labor and my enjoyments. I should like, for the sake of restoring the desired equilibrium, to take a part of the possessions of others. But this would be dangerous. Could not you facilitate the thing for me? Could you not find me a good place? or check the industry of my competitors? or, perhaps, lend me gratuitously some capital which, you may take from its possessor? Could you not bring up my children at the public expense? or grant me some prizes? or secure me a competence when I have attained my fiftieth year? By this mean I shall gain my end with an easy conscience, for the law will have acted for me, and I shall have all the advantages of plunder, without its risk or its disgrace!" - Frederic Bastiat
Thus it follows logically:
"The state is the great fiction by which everybody tries to live at the expense of everyone else." -- Frederic Bastiat
Politics suck.
War of Two Worlds
Value Creators versus Value Destroyers
The first thing civilization must have is business, science and art. It's what the individual and family needs so that its members can live creative, prosperous, happy lives. Business, science and art can survive, even thrive without government and its bureaucracy.
Government and its bureaucracy cannot survive without business and science. In general, business, science and the individual and family is the host and government and bureaucracy are parasites.
Keep valid government services that protect individual rights and private property rights while upholding the sanctity of private contracts -- military defense, FBI, CIA, police and courts. With the rest of government striped away those few valid services would be several fold more efficient and effective than they are today.
Underwriters Laboratory is a private sector business that has to compete in a relatively free market. Underwriters laboratory is a good example of success where government fails.
Any government agency that is a value to people and society -- there are a few -- could much more effectively serve people and society by being in the private sector where competition demands maximum performance.
Wake up! They're parasites. We're their host. We don't need them. They need us.
You're the host. You don't need them -- they need you.
It's your life. Make them meet your terms and become a value creator or let them chose to perish.
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