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Scolded author quits Emory (Michael Bellesiles)
The Atlanta Journal-Costitution ^
| 10/25/2002
| Karen Hill
Posted on 10/26/2002 7:08:18 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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Others have posted the Emory press release on this. This is from the hometown paper.
>>"He is guilty of unprofessional and misleading work," concluded the report,
Pretty damning, coming from an academic environment that would love for his work to be true.
Good riddance, and long overdue. Now we need to pressure the Bancroft Prize people to take back their award.
To: FreedomPoster
It has been good to see this (along with Goodwin demise)....perhaps there is some justice in the world.
To: *bang_list
Bang!
To: anniegetyourgun
I've been waiting for two years for this. My feelings right now are the definition of schadenfreude.
To: FreedomPoster
No matter, Handgun Control, Inc. (or whatever they call themselves these days) will still cite his book as factual authority, just like the other flawed studies they still refer to in their propaganda.
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:18:04 AM PDT
by
Nakota
To: FreedomPoster
I can't believe that a university would criticize a prof for falsifying and misleading with his research. It must have been real obvious that he stretched his research to the limit of lying. I never could understand how he could mainrain that few people owned guns until after the Civil war. After the Revolution, War of 1812, and the Indiazn Wars, that was unbelievable. This just defied common sense and was probably the reason for his firing. The bullsh*t got too deep for even the education establishment.
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:22:41 AM PDT
by
meenie
To: FreedomPoster
Bellesiles acknowledged omitting the information, but only for 1774-75, because he said those counts were unnaturally high. Colonial governments were handing out firearms to militias in anticipation of the Revolutionary War, he said. Thus canceling out his argument that the Founders didn't intend for individuals to own guns.
To: meenie
You should read some of Clayton Cramer's work debunking Bellesiles. It's been around since shortly after the book was published. Because Cramer isn't in academia, the ivory tower types tried to ignore him, but his work was so thorough, it couldn't be ignored. This led to the reviews of Bellesiles' work by "acceptable" academics, who, though they sugar-coated it, also found nothing but a huge steaming pile of B.S. when they examined Bellesiles' "work".
To: FreedomPoster
"Well, that does it! If I can't just make this sh-t up as I go along, I'm leaving! (Gaabye Asshole!)
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posted on
10/26/2002 7:41:34 AM PDT
by
Waco
To: FreedomPoster
To: FreedomPoster
Gee, maybe this is all we have to do to get rid of all these over-liberal professors. Although, I've been thinking lately that maybe we should leave them in place. Kids have a tendency to rebel against "authority" and if the authority figures are commies, maybe the kids will all become conservatives in rebellion :o)
To: Beelzebubba
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:15:48 AM PDT
by
Drango
To: Drango
Bump>
Good that he resigned, but I have the sneaking suspision that he will get a soft-landing job from the leftists.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:20:25 AM PDT
by
KC Burke
To: FreedomPoster
Bellesiles, who said he had enjoyed his 14 years at Emory, continued that he "cannot continue to teach in what I feel is a hostile environment." However I, as a gun owner, have enjoyed my few years of gun ownership, but nevertheless will continue to be a gun owner despite the hostile environment to such that was created by people like Bellesiles. Even though gun ownership is merely a hobby to me while teaching is a profession to him.
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http://instapundit.com/lawrev/Lindgren.pdf
A point by point refutation of his entire book. Very short and very interesting Very final. No wiggle room or weasel words for the Emory LIAR, published in the Yale Law Review.
Have they apologized to Charlton Heston yet ?
When will the NY slimes and the Chi Trib, and or Playboy be printing retractions ?
I thought not.
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posted on
10/26/2002 11:13:14 AM PDT
by
jokar
To: FreedomPoster
Bellesiles acknowledged omitting the information, but only for 1774-75, because he said those counts were unnaturally high.
In other words, his numbers were low because he intentionally left out information in which the numbers were high.
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posted on
10/26/2002 1:05:17 PM PDT
by
jdege
To: jdege
bellies second book, "carter: man of peace" will document the great things that happened under jimmy's second term as president...
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:33:01 PM PDT
by
teeman8r
To: meenie
I can't believe that a university would criticize a prof for falsifying and misleading with his research.
Are you kidding? I guess you must not have much contact with universities. Falsifying data in research is the unpardonable sin in academia.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:41:25 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: Hobey Baker
Hanna Holborn Gray, former president of the University of Chicago.
Too bad her official portrait in Hutch Commons is one of the most excruciatingly ugly things ever committed to canvas.
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posted on
10/26/2002 8:44:00 PM PDT
by
aruanan
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