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Suspects' race shocks black community
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | Oct 26, 2002 | NICOLE JOHNSON AND MICHAEL MARTZ

Posted on 10/26/2002 3:05:49 AM PDT by putupon

Edited on 07/20/2004 11:47:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

First, Vanessa Harris was happy.

Then, she was shocked.

Turning on the morning news, she was relieved to see an arrest in the sniper shootings. But the first words that came out of her mouth were, "Is he black?"

Like Harris, many blacks in the Richmond area were surprised by the details of the alleged snipers' race.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Oregon; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: islamist; jihad; jihadinamerica; race
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To: FLAUSA
re:Just for the record, I view this as a Muslim sniper who happens to be black. If there is any group that I would now view a little differently, it is black muslims, not blacks in general.))))

I don't think the fact that he's black is irrelevant. Blacks are taught to carry a burden of resentment by our compassionate white liberal edu establishment. If he's made to be any kind of victim, he's a victim of a cruel brainwashing by the left.
61 posted on 10/26/2002 6:53:29 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: putupon
Gee they couldn't believe it simply because the media told them so. When ever a black commits a crime the race is left out of the news report , but if an (angry white male) commits a crime it is reported as such.

62 posted on 10/26/2002 6:59:38 AM PDT by Gone_Postal
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To: putupon
"When they captured him, I didn't believe they had the right [person]," said Falilou Gueye, Senegalese owner of Awas hair braiding. "But when the evidence was presented I was really surprised, because we tend to think only white people do these kinds of things."

"It hit so close to home," she said. "It's really distressing, because blacks are already treated stereotypically, and now this is one more thing against us."

So who are the racists here?

63 posted on 10/26/2002 7:02:45 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: putupon
"But when the evidence was presented I was really surprised, because we tend to think only white people do these kinds of things."

It's true though, even on FR there weren't many if any who speculated it was two black men who did the snipings.

64 posted on 10/26/2002 7:12:26 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: putupon
The fact that black people don't want to believe this leaves them open to the theory that it was a set up. Despite all the evidence, most black people thought O.J. was framed.

One might think that since Moose, a black man, led the investigation, the charges of a set up wouldn't stick. But Chris Darden, also a black man, was one of the prosecutors in the O.J. case and that made no difference.

The Nation of Islam will be looking for a way to deflect attention from themselves and what better way than to start rumors that the men were framed--perhaps by the CIA. A segment of blacks already believe the CIA was responsible for the crack epidemic.
65 posted on 10/26/2002 7:15:01 AM PDT by randita
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To: FLAUSA
Just for the record, I view this as a Muslim sniper who happens to be black. If there is any group that I would now view a little differently, it is black muslims, not blacks in general.

I do too ---Mohammed has more in common with John Lindh, Jose Padilla, Reid the shoe bomber and the 19 hijackers than he does with most other blacks.

66 posted on 10/26/2002 7:15:15 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Gone_Postal
When ever a black commits a crime the race is left out of the news report , but if an (angry white male) commits a crime it is reported as such.

That's true but when a white person becomes a Nazi skin head the white "community" shouldn't have to blame itself or look at problems within the white race.

67 posted on 10/26/2002 7:23:39 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Skywalk
(I'm biracial, so please no insinuations about my post)

This really isn't about race. It's about a blockheaded propagandized segment of the U.S. population that refuses to accept reality.

I lived in the S.F. Bay Area during the Zebra killings and the worst atrocities of the Black Panthers. I've devoted considerable study to the Black Muslim movement. I have no illusions after that. It's not about 'targeting' or 'profiling' any particular racial segment. It's about facing the fact that people behave pretty much the same regardless of skin color. Zealots behave like zealots.

There's no essential difference between Farrakhan's Muslims and the bunch of fascist nuts in their 'compound' up in north Idaho. What's insidious is pervasive political correctness that makes it 'wrong' to see the black (or any color other than white) criminals/subversives as what they are.

68 posted on 10/26/2002 7:26:37 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: putupon
"It's a shock. You typically expect a serial killer to be a middle-age, Caucasian with glasses," said Kerry Williams, a state employee. "You wouldn't anticipate that level of dysfunction in the black community

Huh? The level of arrogance of Mr. Williams is astounding.

69 posted on 10/26/2002 7:31:04 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: The Red Zone
"middle age caucasian with glasses..."

LOL. This moron saw that movie about the "angry white male" years ago and thinks it was real. The stereotype of the White serial killer is the opposite of the truth, according to Fox's findings. 33% Black-- as with many other forms of violent crime, black perpetrators are way over-represented.

But the bigotry against white males is apparently widespread. Yesterday while waiting at the checkout counter of a store I heard a black person explaining quite authoritatively to a companion:

This is all scapegoating by Whites-- Johnny Mohammed is really an innocent victim, being framed by the FBI because the government didn't want to catch the real perp.

Can you say "OJ jury?" Even in 2002, when the rest of the nation, including most Black Americans, have really moved on, there is nothing so clearcut that it can't be made into a racial hash by bigotted blacks. Especially by the NOI variety. I believe we can expect these mutants to mount a noisy campaign of lies and obfuscations, and Johnny Cochran is in the wings, lusting after another 15 minutes of fame.
70 posted on 10/26/2002 7:35:03 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Pharmboy
This girl Tina Traver never heard of "Black on Black" crime apparently.
Hard to believe since in terms of violent crime, Black victims almost universally have Black perpetrators
72 posted on 10/26/2002 7:39:58 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: putupon
"You wouldn't anticipate that level of dysfunction in the black community."

WHAT?????????

Are these people serious??

73 posted on 10/26/2002 7:48:18 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: putupon
"And the fact that he was randomly killing other black people made me think he wasn't black."

By that reasoning, since he was also randomly killing white people and I think there were even hispanics and a mid-easterner in the mix, then he couldn't have been any of those either. God these people are ignorant!

75 posted on 10/26/2002 7:52:07 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: FLAUSA
which probably hindered the investigation and resulted in more victims

IMO the one thing that hindered the investigation and resulted in more victims was the refusal to take calls from the perps. Un-friggin-believable.

To paraphrase Mfume, Idiots come in all colors just like killers.
76 posted on 10/26/2002 7:57:27 AM PDT by johnb838
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To: Tripleplay
"Apparently the fact that 70% of black children have no father at home does not qualify as "dysfunctional"

Good point.

77 posted on 10/26/2002 7:59:04 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: putupon
I wonder what the COLORED PEOPLE at the NAACP are going to say about this? : )
78 posted on 10/26/2002 7:59:58 AM PDT by jmax
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To: 4Freedom
"the PC police are going to give you a ticket for doing unauthorized statistical analysis"

LOL!

79 posted on 10/26/2002 8:00:12 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"It hit so close to home," she said. "It's really distressing, because blacks are already treated stereotypically, and now this is one more thing against us."

This sounds just like what the muslims were saying.
80 posted on 10/26/2002 8:10:15 AM PDT by johnb838
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