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To: Tribune7
And what you should do is worry about how you would behave if presented with a moral dilemma in which you were required to make a decision that would cause your death or the death of some innocent person if your decision should be made thoughtlessly, or even correctly.

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How many buildings in the Vatican were dedicated to kidnapping christian children from their parents to be raised jewish, without the law seeing anything untoward about that?

Let God judge Pope Pius IX.

There's a phrase for this mode of reasoning: Moral abdication.

1,508 posted on 12/11/2002 12:27:41 PM PST by donh
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To: donh
There's a phrase for this mode of reasoning: Moral abdication.

You're job is to get to the bottom of the matter. You got to interview the complaintent, then the accused, then find some witnesses. What's that? Most have been dead for a century? You got a problem in pursuing justice.

Even the churches most imaginative apologists can't manage to chaulk up one oven's worth of saved jews.

The first and greatest Jewish authority on the subject was Hungarian Jew, Jeno Levai. He defended the Pope at the Frankfurt trial of the last Auschwitz personnel taken prisoner, as late as 1964. However, on the papal side, the blockbuster is the work of Pinhas Lapide, one-time brigade major in the British army, Jewish journalist and diplomat.

Lapide worked in Israel and had access to the great centre of archives, "Yad Vashem". In his book The Last Three Popes and the Jews (London, 1967), he surveys the entire area covered by the anti-Jewish policy, points out the measures taken and the lives saved in each region. He reaches a total of 860,000 lives saved through Pius XII's programme. Another writer, David Herstig, writing in 1967 (Die Rettung, Stuttgart) calculated that 360,000 Romanian Jews in Israel owed their lives to the Pope.

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1,513 posted on 12/11/2002 5:46:44 PM PST by Tribune7
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